From P.Gledhill@talk21.com Sat Sep 07 14:29:31 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 14:29:31 +0100 Received: from [194.73.242.6] (helo=wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17nfeV-0001su-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 14:29:31 +0100 Received: from talk21.com ([62.7.101.205]) by wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com with ESMTP id <20020907132911.YJVU15860.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@talk21.com> for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:29:11 +0100 Message-ID: <3D79FEC0.30906@talk21.com> From: Paul Gledhill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20010914 X-Accept-Language: en-us, eo MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Blackburn] user or useless group Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Sep 7 14:30:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 14:27:28 +0100 Hello.......... Hello...............Hello...............Hello Is there life out here? or have you given up. Matt. From robert@rob-smith.org.uk Sat Sep 07 15:35:23 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 15:35:23 +0100 Received: from pc-62-31-181-25-wv.blueyonder.co.uk ([62.31.181.25] helo=mail.rob-smith.org.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17nggF-0002lU-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 15:35:23 +0100 Received: from robert (unknown [10.1.0.1]) by mail.rob-smith.org.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id CB526B3B7C for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 15:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000901c2567c$59b717a0$0100010a@robsmith.org.uk> From: "Robert Smith" To: References: <3D79FEC0.30906@talk21.com> Subject: Re: [Blackburn] user or useless group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Sep 7 15:36:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 15:39:19 +0100 hi yes this blackburn lug list does seem a bit slow!! i think matt should do something too. rob smith ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Gledhill To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: [Blackburn] user or useless group > Hello.......... Hello...............Hello...............Hello > Is there life out here? or have you given up. Matt. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blackburn mailing list > Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn > From stuart@smgsystems.co.uk Sat Sep 07 16:13:49 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 16:13:49 +0100 Received: from 212-104-155-183.access.eclipse.net.uk ([212.104.155.183] helo=ewood.smgsystems.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17nhHR-0003Ej-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 16:13:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 15502 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2002 15:17:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO douglas) (10.1.0.99) by 10.0.0.1 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2002 15:17:34 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c25681$29768bc0$6300010a@douglas> From: "Stuart Grimshaw" To: References: <3D79FEC0.30906@talk21.com> <000901c2567c$59b717a0$0100010a@robsmith.org.uk> Subject: Re: [Blackburn] user or useless group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Sep 7 16:14:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:13:46 +0100 > yes this blackburn lug list does seem a bit slow!! > > i think matt should do something too. What do you suggest he does? Matt suggested a meeting and there wasn't much interest. As for the list being slow, if you have any Linux related questions then feel free to ask ... From robert@rob-smith.org.uk Sat Sep 07 16:52:17 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 16:52:17 +0100 Received: from pc-62-31-181-25-wv.blueyonder.co.uk ([62.31.181.25] helo=mail.rob-smith.org.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17nhsf-0003ev-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 16:52:17 +0100 Received: from robert (unknown [10.1.0.1]) by mail.rob-smith.org.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A6D5B3B7C for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <001b01c25687$1a5ef680$0100010a@robsmith.org.uk> From: "Robert Smith" To: References: <3D79FEC0.30906@talk21.com> <000901c2567c$59b717a0$0100010a@robsmith.org.uk> <000501c25681$29768bc0$6300010a@douglas> Subject: Re: [Blackburn] user or useless group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Sep 7 16:53:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:56:17 +0100 I am not sure what matt should do but a meetin sounds good!! I wont be there as i dont live within a reasonable distance to the blackburn lug, our lug in wolves meets everyother week in a pub in the city centre!! y i am on this list i am not quite sure, was more to see if smaller lugs did do stuff rob smith From P.Gledhill@talk21.com Sat Sep 07 20:37:54 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 20:37:54 +0100 Received: from [194.73.242.4] (helo=wmpmta02-app.mail-store.com) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17nlP0-0006d4-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 20:37:54 +0100 Received: from talk21.com ([213.1.201.123]) by wmpmta02-app.mail-store.com with ESMTP id <20020907193738.PDIB25698.wmpmta02-app.mail-store.com@talk21.com> for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 20:37:38 +0100 Message-ID: <3D7A551A.5000704@talk21.com> From: Paul Gledhill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20010914 X-Accept-Language: en-us, eo MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Blackburn] Meeting? Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Sep 7 20:38:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 20:35:54 +0100 Life but not as we know it. Rob. If anyone would like to have a meeting, talk linux. drink, argrue,whatever. than wednesday is good for me. Living in Colne, but happy to meet in Blackburn city centre. have car will travel :^) Paul. From stuart@smgsystems.co.uk Sat Sep 07 22:02:20 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 22:02:20 +0100 Received: from 212-104-155-183.access.eclipse.net.uk ([212.104.155.183] helo=ewood.smgsystems.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17nmih-0007l9-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 22:02:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 20240 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2002 21:06:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO douglas) (10.1.0.99) by 10.0.0.1 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2002 21:06:05 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c256b1$d8968b20$6300010a@douglas> From: "Stuart Grimshaw" To: References: <3D7A551A.5000704@talk21.com> Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Meeting? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Sep 7 22:03:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 22:02:15 +0100 Unfortunatly, I live in Sheffield during the week and weekends are taken up by trying to sell the house. Have fun :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Gledhill" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: [Blackburn] Meeting? > Life but not as we know it. Rob. > > If anyone would like to have a meeting, > talk linux. drink, argrue,whatever. > than wednesday is good for me. > > Living in Colne, but happy to meet in Blackburn city centre. > have car will travel :^) > > Paul. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blackburn mailing list > Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn > From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Sun Dec 08 13:17:03 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:17:03 +0000 Received: from host217-39-110-186.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.39.110.186] helo=ds9.consultmatt.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18L1It-0004vi-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:17:03 +0000 Received: from matt (unknown [10.0.0.1]) by ds9.consultmatt.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F3DE32FE8 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:17:19 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <004901c29ebc$1badf220$0100000a@matt> From: "Matt Wright" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Blackburn] Hi Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Dec 8 13:18:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:17:07 -0000 Hi, I DO still exist. I'm sorry, my mail server was dumping all the lug posts for some reason. I assure you I'm alive and kicking. Matt -- Quantum canem in fenestra est? From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Sun Dec 08 13:20:35 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:20:35 +0000 Received: from host217-39-110-186.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.39.110.186] helo=ds9.consultmatt.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18L1MJ-0004wi-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:20:35 +0000 Received: from matt (unknown [10.0.0.1]) by ds9.consultmatt.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id B4DE532FF1 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:20:51 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <006701c29ebc$9a2ce930$0100000a@matt> From: "Matt Wright" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Blackburn] Update Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Dec 8 13:21:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:20:39 -0000 Hi everyone, Sorry about my recent absence. The fact that lug.org.uk had moved to mailman had passed me by. Now that I've corrected the problems with with my IMAP server I'm alive again. Right, Meetings!! I too suggest we get together in a pub fairly reguarly, at least so we can get ot know each other and see what happens from there. I'm open to suggestions but I would have thought if we get this ironed out quickly we could meet this week or next?? Matt -- Quantum canem in fenestra est? From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Sun Dec 08 13:27:10 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:27:10 +0000 Received: from host217-39-110-186.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.39.110.186] helo=ds9.consultmatt.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18L1Sg-00050c-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:27:10 +0000 Received: from matt (unknown [10.0.0.1]) by ds9.consultmatt.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 622CC32FE8 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:27:16 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <009401c29ebd$7f724d00$0100000a@matt> From: "Matt Wright" To: "Blackburn LUG" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Blackburn] New BLUG Website Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Dec 8 13:28:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:27:04 -0000 Right, Now that I've kicked myself for my earlier, and rather major, cack up I've turned over a new leaf :). The BLUG website has been updated to be based around the PHP-Nuke content system, firstly anyone who would like to voluteer to add content to it just talk to me. Any suggestions, modification, etc, etc, then just drop me an email. Matt -- Quantum canem in fenestra est? From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Tue Dec 10 17:18:09 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:18:09 +0000 Received: from host217-41-7-195.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.41.7.195] helo=ds9.consultmatt.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18Lo1J-0006pg-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:18:09 +0000 Received: from matt (unknown [10.0.0.1]) by ds9.consultmatt.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C70832FF1 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:18:40 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <003801c2a070$227ca2d0$0100000a@matt> From: "Matt Wright" To: "Blackburn LUG" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Blackburn] Meeting Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Dec 10 17:19:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:18:19 -0000 Hi, I was about to annouce a meeting next Tuesday in teh Fernhurst pub at Ewood. However I've remember I'm at an Oxford interview the Sunday till Wednesday. If I make it the following Monday can people make it??? I intend to try and hold a meeting ever two weeks on a Tuesday, as I've said already I can't make this Tuesday and I don't think a meet on Christmas Eve will be very inviting. So I suggest the following: 7:30pm Fernhurst Pub, Ewood 23rd December 2002 If you want a map I'll try and put one on the LUG website soon. A little nearer the time I'll try and roll call people who want to come. Regards, Matt -- Quantum canis ille in fenestra est? From p.gledhill@talk21.com Tue Dec 10 20:31:49 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:31:49 +0000 Received: from [194.73.242.3] (helo=wmpmta01-app.mail-store.com) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18Lr2j-0002vV-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:31:49 +0000 Received: from there ([62.7.29.40]) by wmpmta01-app.mail-store.com with SMTP id <20021210203043.KWXH18427.wmpmta01-app.mail-store.com@there> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:30:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Paul Gledhill Organization: Sacredibis To: "Blackburn LUG" Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Meeting X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <003801c2a070$227ca2d0$0100000a@matt> In-Reply-To: <003801c2a070$227ca2d0$0100000a@matt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20021210203043.KWXH18427.wmpmta01-app.mail-store.com@there> Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Dec 10 20:32:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:32:09 +0000 On Tuesday 10 December 2002 5:18 pm, you wrote: > Hi, > > I was about to annouce a meeting next Tuesday in teh Fernhurst pub at > Ewood. However I've remember I'm at an Oxford interview the Sunday till > Wednesday. If I make it the following Monday can people make it??? I intend > to try and hold a meeting ever two weeks on a Tuesday, as I've said already > I can't make this Tuesday and I don't think a meet on Christmas Eve will be > very inviting. So I suggest the following: > > 7:30pm > Fernhurst Pub, Ewood > 23rd December 2002 > > If you want a map I'll try and put one on the LUG website soon. > > A little nearer the time I'll try and roll call people who want to come. > > Regards, > > Matt > Hello everyone, 23rd sounds fine to me, a map showing the best way to the Fernhurst from the motorway would be a great help. And all the best for your interview at Oxford, Matt :^) Paul. That makes two!. From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Tue Dec 10 21:37:33 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:37:33 +0000 Received: from host213-121-127-95.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.121.127.95] helo=ds9.consultmatt.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18Ls4L-00041u-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:37:33 +0000 Received: from consultmatt.co.uk (unknown [10.0.0.7]) by ds9.consultmatt.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AC332FF1 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:38:12 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3DF65EAB.8070304@consultmatt.co.uk> From: Matt Wright User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020623 Debian/1.0.0-0.woody.1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Meeting References: <003801c2a070$227ca2d0$0100000a@matt> <20021210203043.KWXH18427.wmpmta01-app.mail-store.com@there> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Dec 10 21:38:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:37:47 +0000 Hi, I've changed "[Map soon]" to directions on the website. I couldn't get reliable maps, or directions, so I settled for writing my own. The bus info is a little sketchy but you should get the idea. The Motorway stuff is correct as I live between the M65 and the Fernhurst (its the nicest of my local pubs). Have a look? What distro's do people use here?? Matt -- Quantum canis ille in fenestra est? Paul Gledhill wrote: > On Tuesday 10 December 2002 5:18 pm, you wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I was about to annouce a meeting next Tuesday in teh Fernhurst pub at >>Ewood. However I've remember I'm at an Oxford interview the Sunday till >>Wednesday. If I make it the following Monday can people make it??? I intend >>to try and hold a meeting ever two weeks on a Tuesday, as I've said already >>I can't make this Tuesday and I don't think a meet on Christmas Eve will be >>very inviting. So I suggest the following: >> >>7:30pm >>Fernhurst Pub, Ewood >>23rd December 2002 >> >>If you want a map I'll try and put one on the LUG website soon. >> >>A little nearer the time I'll try and roll call people who want to come. >> >>Regards, >> >>Matt >> > > Hello everyone, > > 23rd sounds fine to me, a map showing the best way to the Fernhurst from the > motorway would be a great help. And all the best for your interview at > Oxford, Matt :^) > > Paul. > > That makes two!. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blackburn mailing list > Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn From sgrimshaw@plus.net Tue Dec 10 21:57:42 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:57:42 +0000 Received: from maniola.plus.net.uk ([195.166.135.195] helo=mail.plus.net.uk) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18LsNq-0004MU-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:57:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 8202 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 21:57:17 -0000 Received: from sheffield.plus.net.uk (HELO testworkplace) (212.159.0.2) by maniola.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 21:57:17 -0000 X-Fake-HELO: testworkplace X-SQ: B Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Meeting From: Stuart Grimshaw To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: <3DF65EAB.8070304@consultmatt.co.uk> References: <003801c2a070$227ca2d0$0100000a@matt> <20021210203043.KWXH18427.wmpmta01-app.mail-store.com@there> <3DF65EAB.8070304@consultmatt.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-1mdk Message-Id: <1039556969.2566.125.camel@48.orangutans.plus.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Dec 10 21:58:00 2002 X-Original-Date: 10 Dec 2002 21:49:28 +0000 > What distro's do people use here?? Mandrake 8.2 & Redhat 7.summat at work -- | Stuart Grimshaw Unmetered & ADSL solutions | Developer for Home & Business | PlusNet Technologies Ltd. @ http://www.plus.net + ----- My Referrals - It pays to recommend PlusNet ----- From leet_llama@hotmail.com Tue Dec 10 22:17:53 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:17:53 +0000 Received: from f82.law15.hotmail.com ([64.4.23.82] helo=hotmail.com) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18LshM-0004ka-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:17:52 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:15:42 -0800 Received: from 217.42.160.144 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:15:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.42.160.144] From: "Rowan Wilson" To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Bcc: Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2002 22:15:42.0065 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD796610:01C2A099] Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Dec 10 22:18:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:15:41 +0000 >Hi, > >I've changed "[Map soon]" to directions on the website. I couldn't get >reliable maps, or directions, so I settled for writing my own. The bus info >is a little sketchy but you should get the idea. The Motorway stuff is >correct as I live between the M65 and the Fernhurst (its the nicest of my >local pubs). Where? :) (The map, I know where Fernhurst is) >What distro's do people use here?? > >Matt Makdrake, SuSE, Redhat, Gentoo. All very good, but Gentoo is probably the best system in my opinion. - Rowan Ingvar Wilson Programming Dept. Zenith Studios http://www.zenith-studios.co.uk/ >From: Matt Wright >Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk >To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk >Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Meeting >Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:37:47 +0000 > > >Have a look? > > >-- Quantum canis ille in fenestra est? > >Paul Gledhill wrote: >>On Tuesday 10 December 2002 5:18 pm, you wrote: >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>I was about to annouce a meeting next Tuesday in teh Fernhurst pub at >>>Ewood. However I've remember I'm at an Oxford interview the Sunday till >>>Wednesday. If I make it the following Monday can people make it??? I >>>intend >>>to try and hold a meeting ever two weeks on a Tuesday, as I've said >>>already >>>I can't make this Tuesday and I don't think a meet on Christmas Eve will >>>be >>>very inviting. So I suggest the following: >>> >>>7:30pm >>>Fernhurst Pub, Ewood >>>23rd December 2002 >>> >>>If you want a map I'll try and put one on the LUG website soon. >>> >>>A little nearer the time I'll try and roll call people who want to come. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Matt >>> >> >>Hello everyone, >> >>23rd sounds fine to me, a map showing the best way to the Fernhurst from >>the motorway would be a great help. And all the best for your interview at >>Oxford, Matt :^) >> >>Paul. >> >>That makes two!. >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Blackburn mailing list >>Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk >>http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn > > >_______________________________________________ >Blackburn mailing list >Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk >http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From leet_llama@hotmail.com Tue Dec 10 22:32:22 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:32:22 +0000 Received: from f87.law15.hotmail.com ([64.4.23.87] helo=hotmail.com) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18LspI-0004zl-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:26:04 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:25:33 -0800 Received: from 217.42.160.144 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:25:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.42.160.144] From: "Rowan Wilson" To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Bcc: Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2002 22:25:33.0627 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E1298B0:01C2A09B] Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Dec 10 22:33:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:25:33 +0000 OOps, didn't see that you said "no map", I am dense, give me a slap. Thanks Rowan _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From steve@localcomputer.co.uk Wed Dec 11 00:25:23 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 00:25:23 +0000 Received: from cyberstr.demon.co.uk ([62.49.19.143] helo=steve.siliq.net) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18Lugk-0006PU-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 00:25:22 +0000 Received: from ROVER3 (unknown [192.168.10.220]) by steve.siliq.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DC6471A2B9 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 00:28:43 +0000 (GMT) From: "Steve Taylor" To: Subject: RE: [Blackburn] Meeting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3DF65EAB.8070304@consultmatt.co.uk> Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Dec 11 00:26:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 00:25:25 -0000 > I've changed "[Map soon]" to directions on the website. I couldn't get > reliable maps, or directions, so I settled for writing my own. The bus > info is a little sketchy but you should get the idea. The Motorway stuff > is correct as I live between the M65 and the Fernhurst (its the nicest > of my local pubs). More maps, addresses and directions on http://www.star-lodge.co.uk/fernhurst/ I'll try to be there on the 23rd. Are you all aware of Preston LUG - which has a meeting tomorrow (Wednesday) evening, 8pm at the Greyfriars? http://www.preston.lug.org.uk Steve From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Wed Dec 11 07:26:47 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:26:47 +0000 Received: from host213-121-127-95.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.121.127.95] helo=ds9.consultmatt.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18M1GZ-0003cq-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:26:47 +0000 Received: from matt (unknown [10.0.0.1]) by ds9.consultmatt.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D0F832FFE for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:27:20 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <001101c2a0e6$aedc4a70$0100000a@matt> From: "Matt Wright" To: References: Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Meeting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Dec 11 07:27:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:26:55 -0000 Hi, Thanks for the site, I don't the the map is very clear but I've used the address they've given to get a better map off mapquest. It's tacked onto the end of the motorway driving directions if anyone wants it. Regards, Matt -- Quantum canis ille in fenestra est? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Taylor" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: RE: [Blackburn] Meeting > > > > I've changed "[Map soon]" to directions on the website. I couldn't get > > reliable maps, or directions, so I settled for writing my own. The bus > > info is a little sketchy but you should get the idea. The Motorway stuff > > is correct as I live between the M65 and the Fernhurst (its the nicest > > of my local pubs). > > More maps, addresses and directions on > http://www.star-lodge.co.uk/fernhurst/ > > I'll try to be there on the 23rd. > > Are you all aware of Preston LUG - which has a meeting tomorrow (Wednesday) > evening, 8pm at the Greyfriars? http://www.preston.lug.org.uk > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > Blackburn mailing list > Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn > From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Wed Dec 11 07:28:14 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:28:14 +0000 Received: from host213-121-127-95.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.121.127.95] helo=ds9.consultmatt.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18M1Hy-0003dc-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:28:14 +0000 Received: from matt (unknown [10.0.0.1]) by ds9.consultmatt.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 295F932FFE for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:28:59 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <002001c2a0e6$e9dbbed0$0100000a@matt> From: "Matt Wright" To: References: <001101c2a0e6$aedc4a70$0100000a@matt> Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Meeting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Dec 11 07:29:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:28:34 -0000 Doh, spelling is terrible at this time of the morning. Its supposed to read "I don't think the map is very clear". Oops. Matt -- Quantum canis ille in fenestra est? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Wright" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Meeting > Hi, > > Thanks for the site, I don't the the map is very clear but I've used the > address they've given to get a better map off mapquest. It's tacked onto the > end of the motorway driving directions if anyone wants it. > > Regards, > > Matt > > -- Quantum canis ille in fenestra est? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Taylor" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:25 AM > Subject: RE: [Blackburn] Meeting > > > > > > > > > I've changed "[Map soon]" to directions on the website. I couldn't get > > > reliable maps, or directions, so I settled for writing my own. The bus > > > info is a little sketchy but you should get the idea. The Motorway stuff > > > is correct as I live between the M65 and the Fernhurst (its the nicest > > > of my local pubs). > > > > More maps, addresses and directions on > > http://www.star-lodge.co.uk/fernhurst/ > > > > I'll try to be there on the 23rd. > > > > Are you all aware of Preston LUG - which has a meeting tomorrow > (Wednesday) > > evening, 8pm at the Greyfriars? http://www.preston.lug.org.uk > > > > Steve > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blackburn mailing list > > Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blackburn mailing list > Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn > From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Thu Dec 19 10:14:49 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:14:49 +0000 Received: from host217-39-112-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.39.112.189] helo=ds9.consultmatt.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18OxhZ-0007JY-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:14:49 +0000 Received: by ds9.consultmatt.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 48) id EB63432FF5; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:14:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 10.0.0.9 ( [10.0.0.9]) as user matt@127.0.0.1 by mail.consultmatt.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:14:17 +0000 Message-ID: <1040292857.3e019bf921732@mail.consultmatt.co.uk> From: Matt Wright To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 10.0.0.9 Subject: [Blackburn] LUG Meeting Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Dec 19 10:15:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:14:17 +0000 I know its early but this in case people are at work and don't get this over the weekend. Fernhurst Pub Monday 23rd December 2002 7:30pm Go's: 1. Matt Late Go's: No Go's: Add your name to the right list. It's nice if you don't use reply arrows but don't worry about it. Matt -- Quantum canem in fenestra est? From leet_llama@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 17:16:07 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:16:07 +0000 Received: from f75.law15.hotmail.com ([64.4.23.75] helo=hotmail.com) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18P4HH-0002MV-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:16:07 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:05:40 -0800 Received: from 217.42.122.126 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:05:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.42.122.126] From: "Rowan Wilson" To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Bcc: Subject: Re: [Blackburn] LUG Meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2002 17:05:40.0033 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB845310:01C2A780] Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Dec 19 17:17:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:05:39 +0000 > >I know its early but this in case people are at work and don't get this >over >the weekend. > >Fernhurst Pub >Monday 23rd December 2002 >7:30pm > >Go's: > 1. Matt > 2. Rowan (I hope) > >Late Go's: > >No Go's: > >Add your name to the right list. It's nice if you don't use reply arrows >but >don't worry about it. > >Matt > >-- Quantum canem in fenestra est? > > > Don't slap me for using reply arrows :) _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From sgrimshaw@plus.net Thu Dec 19 17:43:45 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:43:45 +0000 Received: from maniola.plus.net.uk ([195.166.135.195] helo=mail.plus.net.uk) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18P4i1-0002f1-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:43:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 14417 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2002 17:43:19 -0000 Received: from sheffield.plus.net.uk (HELO testworkplace) (212.159.0.2) by maniola.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 19 Dec 2002 17:43:19 -0000 X-Fake-HELO: testworkplace X-SQ: B Subject: Re: [Blackburn] LUG Meeting From: Stuart Grimshaw To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-1mdk Message-Id: <1040319309.7174.10.camel@48.orangutans.plus.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Dec 19 17:44:01 2002 X-Original-Date: 19 Dec 2002 17:35:09 +0000 On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 17:05, Rowan Wilson wrote: > >Go's: 1. Matt 2. Rowan (I hope) Late Go's: No Go's: 1. Stuart Grimshaw (I'm in Sheffield) -- | Stuart Grimshaw Unmetered & ADSL solutions | Developer for Home & Business | PlusNet Technologies Ltd. @ http://www.plus.net + ----- My Referrals - It pays to recommend PlusNet ----- From robert@rob-smith.org.uk Thu Dec 19 19:12:26 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:12:26 +0000 Received: from pc-80-195-84-136-wv.blueyonder.co.uk ([80.195.84.136] helo=mail.rob-smith.org.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18P65q-0003O7-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:12:26 +0000 Received: from sptifire (unknown [10.1.0.1]) by mail.rob-smith.org.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id A8143B3CCC for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2030 18:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000501c2a793$0ed44a60$0100010a@sptifire> From: "Robert Smith" To: References: <1040319309.7174.10.camel@48.orangutans.plus.net.uk> Subject: Re: [Blackburn] LUG Meeting Organization: Robert Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: "Robert Smith" List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Dec 19 19:13:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:15:56 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Grimshaw" To: Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [Blackburn] LUG Meeting > On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 17:05, Rowan Wilson wrote: > > >Go's: > 1. Matt > 2. Rowan (I hope) > > Late Go's: > > No Go's: > 1. Stuart Grimshaw (I'm in Sheffield) 2) Rob Smith (For the fact I live too far away where the beer costs more and computers less - Wolverhampton) > > -- > | Stuart Grimshaw Unmetered & ADSL solutions > | Developer for Home & Business > | PlusNet Technologies Ltd. @ http://www.plus.net > + ----- My Referrals - It pays to recommend PlusNet ----- > > > _______________________________________________ > Blackburn mailing list > Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn From p.gledhill@talk21.com Sat Dec 21 18:59:57 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:59:57 +0000 Received: from [194.73.242.4] (helo=wmpmta02-app.mail-store.com) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18Poqr-0007DL-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:59:57 +0000 Received: from there ([213.123.54.18]) by wmpmta02-app.mail-store.com with SMTP id <20021221185730.GHTP4707.wmpmta02-app.mail-store.com@there> for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:57:30 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Paul Gledhill Organization: Sacredibis To: Subject: Re: [Blackburn] LUG Meeting X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <1040319309.7174.10.camel@48.orangutans.plus.net.uk> <000501c2a793$0ed44a60$0100010a@sptifire> In-Reply-To: <000501c2a793$0ed44a60$0100010a@sptifire> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20021221185730.GHTP4707.wmpmta02-app.mail-store.com@there> Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Dec 21 19:00:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:59:17 +0000 On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 17:05, Rowan Wilson wrote: Go's: 1. Matt 2. Rowan (I hope) 3. Paul Late Go's: No Go's: 1. Stuart Grimshaw (I'm in Sheffield) 2) Rob Smith (For the fact I live too far away where the beer costs more and computers less - Wolverhampton) From sgrimshaw@plus.net Mon Dec 23 09:27:01 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:27:01 +0000 Received: from maniola.plus.net.uk ([195.166.135.195] helo=mail.plus.net.uk) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18QOrV-0005vR-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:27:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 25236 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2002 09:26:35 -0000 Received: from sheffield.plus.net.uk (HELO testworkplace) (212.159.0.2) by maniola.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 23 Dec 2002 09:26:35 -0000 X-Fake-HELO: testworkplace X-SQ: B Subject: Re: [Blackburn] LUG Meeting From: Stuart Grimshaw To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: <000501c2a793$0ed44a60$0100010a@sptifire> References: <1040319309.7174.10.camel@48.orangutans.plus.net.uk> <000501c2a793$0ed44a60$0100010a@sptifire> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-1mdk Message-Id: <1040635096.5931.1.camel@48.orangutans.plus.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Dec 23 09:28:00 2002 X-Original-Date: 23 Dec 2002 09:18:16 +0000 By some strange quirk of fat, I was sat in a pub in Sheffield on Thursday and met the organiser of the Sheffield LUG :-) On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 19:15, Robert Smith wrote: > > 1. Stuart Grimshaw (I'm in Sheffield) -- | Stuart Grimshaw Unmetered & ADSL solutions | Developer for Home & Business | PlusNet Technologies Ltd. @ http://www.plus.net + ----- My Referrals - It pays to recommend PlusNet ----- From sgrimshaw@plus.net Mon Dec 23 10:01:31 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:01:31 +0000 Received: from maniola.plus.net.uk ([195.166.135.195] helo=mail.plus.net.uk) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18QPOt-00069s-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:01:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 10150 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2002 10:01:06 -0000 Received: from sheffield.plus.net.uk (HELO testworkplace) (212.159.0.2) by maniola.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 23 Dec 2002 10:01:06 -0000 X-Fake-HELO: testworkplace X-SQ: B Subject: Re: [Blackburn] LUG Meeting From: Stuart Grimshaw To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: <1040635096.5931.1.camel@48.orangutans.plus.net.uk> References: <1040319309.7174.10.camel@48.orangutans.plus.net.uk> <000501c2a793$0ed44a60$0100010a@sptifire> <1040635096.5931.1.camel@48.orangutans.plus.net.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-1mdk Message-Id: <1040637167.5902.5.camel@48.orangutans.plus.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Dec 23 10:02:01 2002 X-Original-Date: 23 Dec 2002 09:52:47 +0000 On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 09:18, Stuart Grimshaw wrote: > By some strange quirk of fat, I was sat in a pub in Sheffield on > Thursday and met the organiser of the Sheffield LUG :-) Of course it was a project wrap party, so I was more interested in my real ale :-) -- | Stuart Grimshaw Unmetered & ADSL solutions | Developer for Home & Business | PlusNet Technologies Ltd. @ http://www.plus.net + ----- My Referrals - It pays to recommend PlusNet ----- From pr@fosdem.org Mon Jan 27 17:04:40 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:04:40 +0000 Received: from 216-87.adslnet.ucl.ac.be ([130.104.216.87] helo=linuxzone) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18dCga-00047m-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:04:40 +0000 Received: from root by linuxzone with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18dCgg-0006SG-00 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:04:46 +0100 From: Damien Sandras To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Message-Id: Subject: [Blackburn] Invitation to FOSDEM 2003 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Jan 28 07:59:00 2003 X-Original-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:04:46 +0100 Hi, The purpose of this e-mail is to invite you to attend to the 3rd edition of FOSDEM. This edition will take place on the 8th and 9th of February 2003 in Brussels (see http://www.fosdem.org for more info). The previous editions encountered a huge success. More than 1600 people attended to presentations given by well-known speakers such as Richard Stallman, Miguel De Icaza, DJ Adams, Philip Hazel in 2002, and FOSDEM 2003 will try to be even more successful thanks to numerous presentations done by programmers of leading Open Source and Free Software projects. This year, will be present (in alphabetical order): Ann Harrison - Firebird : an Open Source database based on the InterBase(r) Brian King - Mozilla Bruce Momjian - PostgreSQL Core Developer Bruno Coudoin - Author of GCompris Clif Flynt - Tcl/Tk Damien Sandras - GnomeMeeting author David Axmark - MySQL developer David Faure - KDE Core Developer Guenter Bartsch - Author of xine Harald Welte - Member of the Netfilter Core Team Havoc Pennington - GNOME Foundation, Free Standards Hilaire Fernandes - Author of DrGenius Jakub Steiner - Author of many of the GTK 2.x stock icons, Gimp tutorial Jon 'Maddog' Hall - Executive Director of Linux International Julian Smart - Author of wxWindows Michael Meeks - GNOME Core developer Owen Taylor - Maintainer of GTK+ Raphael Hertzog - Author of Debian-Edu Richard M Stallman - Leader of the FSF Solar Designer - Author of Openwall GNU/*/Linux Thomas Vander Stichele - GStreamer Developer Yoann Vandoorselaere & Laurent Oudot - Prelude-IDS authors And many others, ... Several Free or Open Source Software projects have decided to hold a meeting during FOSDEM. It is a great occasion to meet core developers from GNOME, GNUstep, KDE, Mozilla, embedded software and PostgreSQL. Moreover, the Free Software Award will be handed out during the FOSDEM 2003 by Richard Stallman and other members from the Free Software Foundation. FOSDEM's goal is to provide Free Software and Open Source developers and communities the opportunity to learn and discuss the latest developments in the Free and Open Source arena and to promote the development of Free and Open Source solutions. The speakers mainly talk about technologies and make technical speeches. The event is totally free, but we encourage you to support FOSDEM if you appreciate the event and want it to continue in the same spirit. More information about the FOSDEM support operation at: http://www.fosdem.org/index/support/ We hope to see you there. -- FOSDEM 2003 Damien Sandras Community Contact From biology@qegs.freeserve.co.uk Mon Mar 10 23:19:52 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:19:52 +0000 Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.195.171]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18sWYi-0002l9-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:19:52 +0000 Received: from modem-146.blue-angel.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.234.146] helo=qegs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18sWYh-00037b-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:19:52 +0000 Message-ID: <3E6D1D44.9050702@qegs.freeserve.co.uk> From: Konrad Dabrowski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Blackburn] A few questions Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Mar 10 23:20:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:18:28 +0000 Hello everyone! As far as I know, I am the first user asking for help at BLUG. I have a few questions, which are at least mildly GNU/Linux related: 1. I want to get ADSL. I am on an exchange that will let me do this with a maximum download speed of 512K/sec and an unknown amount of maximum upload. I would like to get a web server running, so I would need a static IP. I don't care about getting extra e-mail addresses and other random 'gifts' like that and I don't need them. Can you advise me on an ISP to use, as I have yet to find one that claims to support Linux. Price is the most important thing to me, after getting a static IP address. 2. I would like to get ADSL going directly into my Debian Linux box (a PI 133MHZ) and then distributed on a network to my other PC(s). Does anyone know of a suitable and as-cheap-as possible ethernet modem/router? The only one I have found so far was in PC World and cost £100, which I think is a bit expensive. My debian box has no USB port and I don't want to be messing around struggling to get USB to work on another machine. 3. I know nothing about networks and would like to connect my Windows/Red Hat box to my Debian box (preferably through a switchbox). Could someone please tell me how to do this. I have 2 network cards and can get hold of ethernet cables quite easily. 4. My PII 333MHz box is getting quite old now. Can anyone advise me on where I can get something somewhat newer, but not necessarily bleeding-edge that doesn't cost a huge amount? Thanks very much for your help Konrad Dabrowski P.S. What happened at the meeting. From stuart@smgsystems.co.uk Mon Mar 10 23:27:39 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:27:39 +0000 Received: from mail.plus.net.uk ([195.166.135.195]) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18sWgF-0002sg-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:27:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 26448 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 23:27:00 -0000 Received: from sheffield.plus.net.uk (HELO 230.orangutans.plus.net.uk) (212.159.0.2) by maniola.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 23:27:00 -0000 X-Fake-HELO: 230.orangutans.plus.net.uk X-SQ: B Subject: Re: [Blackburn] A few questions From: Stuart Grimshaw To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: <3E6D1D44.9050702@qegs.freeserve.co.uk> References: <3E6D1D44.9050702@qegs.freeserve.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Organization: Message-Id: <1047338857.5698.8.camel@104.chimpanzees.plus.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Mar 10 23:28:03 2003 X-Original-Date: 10 Mar 2003 23:27:38 +0000 On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 23:18, Konrad Dabrowski wrote: > Hello everyone! > > As far as I know, I am the first user asking for help at BLUG. > > I have a few questions, which are at least mildly GNU/Linux related: > > 1. I want to get ADSL. I am on an exchange that will let me do this with > a maximum download speed of 512K/sec and an unknown amount of maximum > upload. > I would like to get a web server running, so I would need a static IP. I > don't care about getting extra e-mail addresses and other random 'gifts' > like that and I don't need them. Can you advise me on an ISP to use, as > I have yet to find one that claims to support Linux. Price is > the most important thing to me, after getting a static IP address. I used Eclipse (www.eclipse.co.uk) and they were fine. You'll probably want to get one of the bundled router packages, look at Plusnet as they used to be cheaper than buying ADSL & a router seperatly (this may not be the case now) (DISCLAIMER: I work for Plusnet, but the information I give you is my honest opinion and as such need not reflect that of Plusnet etc etc) Check out www.adslguide.org.uk t see what other people think of the various ISP's. > 2. I would like to get ADSL going directly into my Debian Linux box (a > PI 133MHZ) and then distributed on a network to my other PC(s). Does > anyone know of a suitable and as-cheap-as possible ethernet > modem/router? The only one I have found so far was in PC World and cost > £100, which I think is a bit expensive. My debian box has no USB port > and I don't want to be messing around struggling to get USB to work on > another machine. You'll be better off getting a router with a built in switch, saves much hassle, most also come with firewalls built in too. > 3. I know nothing about networks and would like to connect my > Windows/Red Hat box to my Debian box (preferably through a switchbox). > Could someone please tell me how to do this. I have 2 network cards and > can get hold of ethernet cables quite easily. With a router/switch combo there'll be no need to do that. > 4. My PII 333MHz box is getting quite old now. Can anyone advise me on > where I can get something somewhat newer, but not necessarily > bleeding-edge that doesn't cost a huge amount? eBay? There is also a local store up near Philips road (on the same estate as Airtime) that sell cheap PC's but they were lower spec than what you have I think. -- Stuart Grimshaw From stuart@smgsystems.co.uk Mon Mar 10 23:28:08 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:28:08 +0000 Received: from mail.plus.net.uk ([195.166.135.195]) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18sWgh-0002tN-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:28:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 26646 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 23:27:29 -0000 Received: from sheffield.plus.net.uk (HELO 230.orangutans.plus.net.uk) (212.159.0.2) by maniola.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 23:27:28 -0000 X-Fake-HELO: 230.orangutans.plus.net.uk X-SQ: B Subject: Re: [Blackburn] A few questions From: Stuart Grimshaw To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: <3E6D1D44.9050702@qegs.freeserve.co.uk> References: <3E6D1D44.9050702@qegs.freeserve.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1047338886.5699.10.camel@104.chimpanzees.plus.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Mar 10 23:29:02 2003 X-Original-Date: 10 Mar 2003 23:28:07 +0000 On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 23:18, Konrad Dabrowski wrote: > Hello everyone! repeats do not count :-) -- Stuart Grimshaw From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Tue Mar 11 07:54:37 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:54:37 +0000 Received: from host217-41-56-11.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.41.56.11] helo=ds9) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18sear-00081n-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:54:37 +0000 Received: from matt (unknown [10.0.0.1]) by ds9 (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D3581B887 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:01:02 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <001301c2e7a3$7aaabad0$0100000a@matt> From: "Matt Wright" To: References: <3E6D1D44.9050702@qegs.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: [Blackburn] A few questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Mar 11 07:55:02 2003 X-Original-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:54:43 -0000 Hi, I've got pretty much an exact setup of what you've just asked here at my place. I have BTOpenworld Home 500 (or whatever its called) which has a dynamic IP address. However it doesn't change that much, probably once every month or so. My DNS host for my website supports dynamic update so I do that to keep my web presence. However the modem that BT supplied is a Speedtouch USB (little green frog thing) and I've got quite skilled in the past year or so at getting them to work in linux. I have a spare PCI USB controller that you're welcome to purchase off me (couple of quid, not a lot) and I can give you help getting the modem running in linux (this is assuming you have a speedtouch) By way of your P333, I hosted my website, email, ftp, and goodness knows what else quite easily off a P266 with 128mb and 3 incredibly slow 2gb hard drives for over a year. If you're running Linux you don't really need to ditch the P333. Regards, Matt -- Quantum canis ille in fenestra est? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Konrad Dabrowski" To: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: [Blackburn] A few questions > Hello everyone! > > As far as I know, I am the first user asking for help at BLUG. > > I have a few questions, which are at least mildly GNU/Linux related: > > 1. I want to get ADSL. I am on an exchange that will let me do this with > a maximum download speed of 512K/sec and an unknown amount of maximum > upload. > I would like to get a web server running, so I would need a static IP. I > don't care about getting extra e-mail addresses and other random 'gifts' > like that and I don't need them. Can you advise me on an ISP to use, as > I have yet to find one that claims to support Linux. Price is > the most important thing to me, after getting a static IP address. > > 2. I would like to get ADSL going directly into my Debian Linux box (a > PI 133MHZ) and then distributed on a network to my other PC(s). Does > anyone know of a suitable and as-cheap-as possible ethernet > modem/router? The only one I have found so far was in PC World and cost > £100, which I think is a bit expensive. My debian box has no USB port > and I don't want to be messing around struggling to get USB to work on > another machine. > > 3. I know nothing about networks and would like to connect my > Windows/Red Hat box to my Debian box (preferably through a switchbox). > Could someone please tell me how to do this. I have 2 network cards and > can get hold of ethernet cables quite easily. > > 4. My PII 333MHz box is getting quite old now. Can anyone advise me on > where I can get something somewhat newer, but not necessarily > bleeding-edge that doesn't cost a huge amount? > > Thanks very much for your help > Konrad Dabrowski > > P.S. What happened at the meeting. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blackburn mailing list > Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn > > From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Fri Mar 14 17:43:44 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:43:44 +0000 Received: from host217-41-56-11.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.41.56.11] helo=ds9) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18ttDb-0001ie-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:43:44 +0000 Received: from matt (unknown [10.0.0.1]) by ds9 (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C4BC1B884 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:49:21 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000701c2ea51$52c57cc0$0100000a@matt> From: "Matt Wright" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Blackburn] Palm m130 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Mar 14 17:44:00 2003 X-Original-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:44:11 -0000 Hi, Anyone on here be interested in a Palm m130 fro £100 if it came up for sale. Considering a swap to a Sharp Zaurus but need to shift the Palm for a decent amount of cash to afford it. Regards, Matt -- Quantum canis ille in fenestra est? From stuart@smgsystems.co.uk Thu Apr 03 14:26:52 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:26:52 +0100 Received: from maniola.plus.net.uk ([195.166.135.195] helo=mail.plus.net.uk) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1914k0-0007xU-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:26:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 25511 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2003 13:26:08 -0000 Received: from sheffield.plus.net.uk (HELO ?172.29.25.230?) (212.159.0.2) by maniola.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 3 Apr 2003 13:26:08 -0000 X-Fake-HELO: [172.29.25.230] X-SQ: B From: Stuart Grimshaw To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1049376371.23724.78.camel@104.chimpanzees.plus.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Blackburn] Bluetooth? Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Apr 3 14:27:01 2003 X-Original-Date: 03 Apr 2003 14:26:12 +0100 Anyone managed to get a bluetooth USB dongle working under Linux? -- Stuart Grimshaw From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Thu Apr 03 14:46:18 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:46:18 +0100 Received: from host217-41-56-11.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.41.56.11] helo=ds9) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19152n-0008Tl-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:46:18 +0100 Received: by ds9 (Postfix, from userid 33) id 4A1D91BB6A; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 14:46:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from 195.8.175.4 ( [195.8.175.4]) as user matt@127.0.0.1 by www.consultmatt.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 14:46:04 +0100 Message-ID: <1049377564.3e8c3b1cb7c73@www.consultmatt.co.uk> From: Matt Wright To: "blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk" Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Bluetooth? References: <1049376371.23724.78.camel@104.chimpanzees.plus.net.uk> In-Reply-To: <1049376371.23724.78.camel@104.chimpanzees.plus.net.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 195.8.175.4 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Apr 3 14:47:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 14:46:04 +0100 Hi, Haven't tried, I know there are some chipsets that are better supported than others. I was considering one to get for my Zaurus but went for 802.11b cards instead. Which BT stack are you trying to use, what kernel and which chipset? Matt -- Quantum canem in fenestra est? Quoting Stuart Grimshaw : > Anyone managed to get a bluetooth USB dongle working under Linux? > > -- > Stuart Grimshaw > > > _______________________________________________ > Blackburn mailing list > Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn > > From stuart@smgsystems.co.uk Thu Apr 03 14:56:00 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:56:00 +0100 Received: from maniola.plus.net.uk ([195.166.135.195] helo=mail.plus.net.uk) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1915CC-0000DD-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:56:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 13153 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2003 13:55:18 -0000 Received: from sheffield.plus.net.uk (HELO ?172.29.25.230?) (212.159.0.2) by maniola.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 3 Apr 2003 13:55:18 -0000 X-Fake-HELO: [172.29.25.230] X-SQ: B Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Bluetooth? From: Stuart Grimshaw To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: <1049377564.3e8c3b1cb7c73@www.consultmatt.co.uk> References: <1049376371.23724.78.camel@104.chimpanzees.plus.net.uk> <1049377564.3e8c3b1cb7c73@www.consultmatt.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1049378120.23964.85.camel@104.chimpanzees.plus.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Apr 3 14:56:02 2003 X-Original-Date: 03 Apr 2003 14:55:21 +0100 On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 14:46, Matt Wright wrote: > Hi, > > Haven't tried, I know there are some chipsets that are better supported than > others. I was considering one to get for my Zaurus but went for 802.11b cards > instead. Which BT stack are you trying to use, what kernel and which chipset? Redhat 7.3 2.4.18 kernal Bluez stack (in the kernal apparantly) feck knows what chipset it is, but it's the Gigabyte GN-BTD01 from Scam, which is amongst the supported devices on the Bluez website. I posted to the Redhat newsgroup with a list of log file messages etc, I'll post a link when it appears on Google. -- Stuart Grimshaw From stuart@smgsystems.co.uk Fri Apr 11 09:55:21 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:55:21 +0100 Received: from maniola.plus.net.uk ([195.166.135.195] helo=mail.plus.net.uk) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 193uJd-0001fy-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:55:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 28417 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2003 08:54:34 -0000 Received: from sheffield.plus.net.uk (HELO ?172.29.25.230?) (212.159.0.2) by maniola.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 11 Apr 2003 08:54:34 -0000 X-Fake-HELO: [172.29.25.230] X-SQ: B Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Bluetooth? From: Stuart Grimshaw To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: <1049377564.3e8c3b1cb7c73@www.consultmatt.co.uk> References: <1049376371.23724.78.camel@104.chimpanzees.plus.net.uk> <1049377564.3e8c3b1cb7c73@www.consultmatt.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1050051257.6335.68.camel@104.chimpanzees.plus.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Apr 11 09:56:01 2003 X-Original-Date: 11 Apr 2003 09:54:18 +0100 On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 14:46, Matt Wright wrote: > Hi, > > Haven't tried, I know there are some chipsets that are better supported than > others. I was considering one to get for my Zaurus but went for 802.11b cards > instead. Which BT stack are you trying to use, what kernel and which chipset? I got bluetooth working. There are a few problems. 1) Like many thing with Linux, there are multiple versions of the Bluetooth stack to go for. The default one, Bluez comes as part of the Kernal since about 2.4.6, but none of the actual tools to control it are distributed with the versions of Redhat I'm using. 2) I installed the Affix stack without realising which other loadable modules belonged to the the Bluez stack, so they conflicted. Once I removed all the Bluez modules, Affix worked. Next I'm going to write an sync util for Evolution, and cut my teeth on C under Linux .... wish me luck. -- Stuart Grimshaw On a child's superman costume: "Wearing of this garment does not enable you to fly." From konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk Sun May 25 21:45:56 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 May 2003 21:45:56 +0100 Received: from mail18.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.67.23]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19K2NQ-00027m-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 25 May 2003 21:45:56 +0100 Received: from modem-20.chromis.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.245.20]) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19K2NE-0005g1-JN for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 25 May 2003 21:45:50 +0100 From: Konrad =?utf-8?q?D=C4=85browski?= To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305252134.26877.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [Blackburn] Networking Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun May 25 21:46:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 21:34:25 +0100 Hello again everyone! I still don't have ADSL, but I'm plannning to get it in the next month or so. I've been trying to set up a network today. That works and the computers on it can ping each-other. However, I don't know how to get the internet shared amoung the computers. A computer (192.168.3.9) is connected to the internet using a dailup connection. It can use this connection, but 192.168.3.11 (the other computer) cant. They are both Debian Woody boxes. I think 192.168.3.9 is configured to be a gateway: is this what it should be? If I try to ping something on the internet on 192.168.3.10, it cant resolve the domain name. If I give it an IP address to ping, 192.168.3.9 seems to send out the address 192.168.3.10 as the pinging computer's IP, rather than its own (if I understand the output form tcpdump correctly). Please could someone help. Should I be using squid? If so, how do I set it up? Also, is it possible to run a program in X as root, when logged in as a normal user? Thanks very much Konrad P.S. I attatch the outputs of route and ifconfig in case they are of use. ifconfig on 192.168.3.9: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:20:AF:C6:DA:DD inet addr:192.168.3.9 Bcast:192.168.3.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:9505 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1587 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:3 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:927068 (905.3 KiB) TX bytes:146644 (143.2 KiB) Interrupt:5 Base address:0x200 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:127 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:127 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:11791 (11.5 KiB) TX bytes:11791 (11.5 KiB) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:81.76.203.173 P-t-P:195.92.168.41 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:38 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:125 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 RX bytes:844 (844.0 b) TX bytes:8580 (8.3 KiB) route on 192.168.3.9: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface www.birminghamc * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 lo fruitbat.lns.bi * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 ppp0 192.168.3.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 default fruitbat.lns.bi 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 ppp0 ifconfig on 192.168.3.10: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:26:E2:29:D5 inet addr:192.168.3.10 Bcast:192.168.3.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:655 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:8636 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:59960 (58.5 KiB) TX bytes:840539 (820.8 KiB) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:200 (200.0 b) TX bytes:200 (200.0 b) route on 192.168.3.9: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.3.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo default 192.168.3.9 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 I've set the hostname (I think) to birminghamcounrtyclub.org and the two computers are www (192.168.3.9) and debian333 (192.168.3.10) From steve@siliq.com Sun May 25 22:22:37 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 May 2003 22:22:37 +0100 Received: from cyberstr.demon.co.uk ([62.49.19.143] helo=steve.siliq.net) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19K2wv-00034W-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 25 May 2003 22:22:37 +0100 Received: by steve.siliq.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id D083738D7B; Sun, 25 May 2003 17:22:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Scanned-By: SILIQ Virus Scanning service Received: from rover4 (unknown [192.168.10.220]) by steve.siliq.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1074138CD9 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 17:22:36 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: RE: [Blackburn] Networking Organization: SILIQ Limited Message-ID: <002401c32303$aad18e00$dc0aa8c0@rover4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <200305252134.26877.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun May 25 22:23:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 22:21:55 +0100 > I've been trying to set up a network today. That works and the > computers on it can ping each-other. However, I don't know how to get > the internet shared amoung the computers.=20 The simplest way probably is to setup NAT (aka IP Masquerading) on the gateway machine. You will have to tell me whether you are using kernel 2.2 or 2.4 because = the commands for NAT are completely different. > A computer (192.168.3.9) is > connected to the internet using a dailup connection. It can use this > connection, but 192.168.3.11 (the other computer) cant. I will assume you meant 192.168.3.10 here..... > They are both > Debian Woody boxes. I think 192.168.3.9 is configured to be a > gateway: is this what it should be?=20 Yes. Your 192.168.3.9 machine should be setup to perform NAT, and = routing should be enabled on it. Then your other machine(s) should be configured with 192.168.3.9 as the default gateway. > If I try to ping something on the > internet on 192.168.3.10, it cant resolve the domain name.=20 Don't worry about domain names or hostnames for now. You must try to ping a numeric IP address on the Internet. Try = 158.52.1.204 > If I give > it an IP address to ping, 192.168.3.9 seems to send out the address > 192.168.3.10 as the pinging computer's IP, rather than its own (if I > understand the output form tcpdump correctly).=20 It looks like you have enabled routing, but not enabled NAT. > Please could someone help. Should I be using squid? If so, how do I > set it up?=20 You could use squid instead of setting up NAT. It should be just a case = of running the squid daemon, if the default configuration file is sane. = Squid will just give you HTTP connections - nothing else, not even ping! If you decide to setup NAT (which gives all of these) then I would = suggest you leave squid for another day, after you have everything working = without squid. > Also, is it possible to run a program in X as root, when logged in as > a normal user? The command 'su' will turn any shell into a root shell. You will need = root's password. For a genuine root environment, you should run 'su -'. > P.S. I attatch the outputs of route and ifconfig in case they > are of use. ifconfig on 192.168.3.9: That is all fine. > route on 192.168.3.9: >=20 > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref =20 > Use Iface www.birminghamc * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 =20 > 0 lo fruitbat.lns.bi * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 =20 > 0 ppp0 192.168.3.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 =20 > 0 eth0 default fruitbat.lns.bi 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 =20 > 0 ppp0=20 That is a bit messed up :-) Can you send the output of 'route -n' and also the contents of = '/etc/hosts' (which should be almost empty)? > ifconfig on 192.168.3.10: That is fine. > route on 192.168.3.9: ???? You mean 192.168.3.10 > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref =20 > Use Iface 192.168.3.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 =20 > 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 =20 > 0 lo default 192.168.3.9 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 =20 > 0 eth0=20 Messed up. Again, send the output of 'route -n' and also the contents of '/etc/hosts'. > I've set the hostname (I think) to birminghamcounrtyclub.org Why? That domain name is not even registered apparently. I look forward to understanding what is going on here :-) Steve From konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk Tue May 27 15:32:06 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:32:06 +0100 Received: from tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.168.141]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19KfUk-000658-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 27 May 2003 15:32:06 +0100 Received: from modem-1270.guenon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([81.76.212.246] helo=debian333.birminghamcountryclub.org) by tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19KfUX-0006T2-Ip for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 27 May 2003 15:31:57 +0100 From: Konrad =?utf-8?q?D=C4=85browski?= To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Networking User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <002401c32303$aad18e00$dc0aa8c0@rover4> In-Reply-To: <002401c32303$aad18e00$dc0aa8c0@rover4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305271531.17527.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue May 27 15:33:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:31:16 +0100 Dnia nie 25. maja 2003 22:21, steve@localcomputer.co.uk napisa=C5=82: > > I've been trying to set up a network today. That works and the > > computers on it can ping each-other. However, I don't know how to get > > the internet shared amoung the computers. > > The simplest way probably is to setup NAT (aka IP Masquerading) on the > gateway machine. I've got all this working now. The Debian reference is a wonderful thing if= =20 you know what you're looking for :). My gateway still needs a bit of tidyin= g=20 up, but I now know how to get it to work. > The command 'su' will turn any shell into a root shell. You will need > root's password. For a genuine root environment, you should run 'su -'. Yeah, I can run shell commands as root this way, but how can I run X progra= ms=20 as root, when logged in to KDE as a normal user? > > I've set the hostname (I think) to birminghamcounrtyclub.org > > Why? That domain name is not even registered apparently. Once I have an ADSL, I want to use this domain name. The choice is a=20 long-standing joke with some friends of mine. What's the cheapest way to=20 reserve it, so that noone else takes it? Thanks very much! Konrad P.S. I want to recompile the kernel some time. I use 2.2 atm, but I like so= me=20 of the stuff in 2.4. Considering that I've never done it before, about how= =20 long would it take me? My 2 computers are a P 133 with 32MB RAM and a PIII= =20 333 with 64MB RAM.=20 Also, is there a special kernel for dual processor boxes or should I just = use=20 the normal one? From steve@siliq.com Tue May 27 16:40:06 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:40:06 +0100 Received: from cyberstr.demon.co.uk ([62.49.19.143] helo=steve.siliq.net) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19KgYY-0007EE-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 27 May 2003 16:40:06 +0100 Received: by steve.siliq.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 78A4838D83; Tue, 27 May 2003 11:40:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Scanned-By: SILIQ Virus Scanning service Received: from rover4 (unknown [192.168.10.220]) by steve.siliq.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1F338CD9 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 11:40:01 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: RE: [Blackburn] Networking Organization: SILIQ Limited Message-ID: <004001c32466$2cd18aa0$dc0aa8c0@rover4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <200305271531.17527.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue May 27 16:41:00 2003 X-Original-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:39:30 +0100 blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk wrote: > Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Networking >> The command 'su' will turn any shell into a root shell. You will need >> root's password. For a genuine root environment, you should run 'su >> -'. > Yeah, I can run shell commands as root this way, but how can I run X > programs as root, when logged in to KDE as a normal user? The same way... try it! Though in general running an X application as = root is not a good idea. >>> I've set the hostname (I think) to birminghamcounrtyclub.org >>=20 >> Why? That domain name is not even registered apparently. >=20 > Once I have an ADSL, I want to use this domain name. The choice is a > long-standing joke with some friends of mine. What's the cheapest way > to reserve it, so that noone else takes it? You need to register the domain. I could recommend "good" places to do = this but as you've asked for "cheap", try www.webtapestry.net. Don't attempt to set hostnames to use this FQDN until you have = registered it. > P.S. I want to recompile the kernel some time. I use 2.2 atm, but I > like some of the stuff in 2.4.=20 Be prepared for your NAT/Masq to break at that point :-) > Also, is there a special kernel for dual processor boxes or should I > just use the normal one? Yes, just turn on the SMP options in the kernel, before compiling it (or = use someone's precompiled SMP kernel). Steve From Michael.Brooks@physics.ox.ac.uk Tue May 27 16:47:57 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:47:57 +0100 Received: from hastur.physics.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.243.65] helo=janus.physics.ox.ac.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19Kgg9-0007JS-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 27 May 2003 16:47:57 +0100 Received: from amavis by janus.physics.ox.ac.uk with scanned-ok (Exim 4.10) id 19Kgg8-0004u7-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 27 May 2003 16:47:56 +0100 Received: from nodens.physics.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.243.66]) by janus.physics.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 19Kgg4-0004qK-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 27 May 2003 16:47:52 +0100 Received: from brooksm by nodens.physics.ox.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19KgiN-0005n0-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 27 May 2003 16:50:15 +0100 From: Mick Brooks To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Message-ID: <20030527155015.GC11905@taranis.physics.ox.ac.uk> References: <200305271531.17527.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> <004001c32466$2cd18aa0$dc0aa8c0@rover4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004001c32466$2cd18aa0$dc0aa8c0@rover4> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Networking Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-17.4 required=11.9 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: X-AVtransport: scanmails_remote X-AVwrapper: AMaViS (http://www.amavis.org/) X-AVscanner: Sophos sweep (http://www.sophos.com/) Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue May 27 22:57:14 2003 X-Original-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:50:15 +0100 On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 04:39:30PM +0100, steve@localcomputer.co.uk wrote: > Earlier, Konrad wrote: > > > Yeah, I can run shell commands as root this way, but how can I run X > > programs as root, when logged in to KDE as a normal user? > > The same way... try it! Though in general running an X application as root > is not a good idea. Have a quick read of the xhost man page first. This would work, but is very insecure, which may or may not matter to you: As user who logged into KDE: $ xhost + Then as root start the program you want to see. Hope that helps, -- Mick Brooks michael.brooks@physics.ox.ac.uk From konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk Wed May 28 18:35:51 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 May 2003 18:35:51 +0100 Received: from tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.168.141]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19L4q7-00043x-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 28 May 2003 18:35:51 +0100 Received: from modem-2804.fruitbat.dialup.pol.co.uk ([81.76.202.244] helo=debian333.birminghamcountryclub.org) by tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19L4pl-0007OX-Qb for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 28 May 2003 18:35:34 +0100 From: Konrad =?utf-8?q?D=C4=85browski?= To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Networking User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <200305271531.17527.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> <004001c32466$2cd18aa0$dc0aa8c0@rover4> <20030527155015.GC11905@taranis.physics.ox.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20030527155015.GC11905@taranis.physics.ox.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305281834.53763.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed May 28 18:36:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 18:34:52 +0100 > This would work, but is very insecure, which may or may not matter to > you: It does work thanks. I use synaptic to see what programs are installable and then do the installing using the comand line, so my computer's secure for most of the time :). It only runs as root and your suggestion lets me do this. Thanks Konrad D. From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Thu May 29 17:28:03 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:28:03 +0100 Received: from host217-32-113-15.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.32.113.15] helo=ds9 ident=postfix) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19LQG2-0008SX-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:28:02 +0100 Received: from localhost (ds9 [127.0.0.1]) by ds9 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D8F1B878 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:28:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from ds9 ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ds9 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32167-08 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:28:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from 10.0.0.1 (unknown [10.0.0.1]) by ds9 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3061B86A for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:28:01 +0100 (BST) From: Matt Wright To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305291726.59144.matt@consultmatt.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p1 (Debian) at example.com Subject: [Blackburn] Xbox's Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu May 29 17:29:00 2003 X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:26:59 +0100 Hey guys, Is anyone here looking to flog an Xbox? I'd really like one to put Linux on and my brother won't let me touch his. I want one for going away to uni. If anyone has one they want to flog cheap without games then ca you drop me a line? Regards, Matt -- Quantum canem in fenestra est? From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Thu May 29 17:30:22 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:30:22 +0100 Received: from host217-32-113-15.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.32.113.15] helo=ds9 ident=postfix) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19LQII-00009s-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:30:22 +0100 Received: from localhost (ds9 [127.0.0.1]) by ds9 (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93611B878 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:30:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from ds9 ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ds9 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32128-10 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:30:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from 10.0.0.1 (unknown [10.0.0.1]) by ds9 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F9B1B86A for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:30:19 +0100 (BST) From: Matt Wright To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305291729.18037.matt@consultmatt.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p1 (Debian) at example.com Subject: [Blackburn] BLUG Website Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu May 29 17:31:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:29:18 +0100 Hi, Is anyone interested in maintaining the BLUG website. I used to have a PHPNuke site up until it got hacked. I'm just approaching exam season so I haven't got much time to be fiddling with it. If anyone wants to write a site and tarball it up I'll upload it and we can see about access to the server. Regards, Matt Wright (BLUG coordinator person, alledgedly) -- Quantum canem in fenestra est? From stuart@smgsystems.co.uk Thu May 29 18:09:45 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:09:45 +0100 Received: from mail.plus.net.uk ([195.166.135.195]) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19LQuP-0001Gl-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 29 May 2003 18:09:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 6444 invoked from network); 29 May 2003 17:08:53 -0000 Received: from sheffield.plus.net.uk (HELO ?172.29.25.230?) (212.159.0.2) by maniola.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 29 May 2003 17:08:53 -0000 X-Fake-HELO: [172.29.25.230] X-SQ: B Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Xbox's From: Stuart Grimshaw To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: <200305291726.59144.matt@consultmatt.co.uk> References: <200305291726.59144.matt@consultmatt.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1054228004.1359.456.camel@104.chimpanzees.plus.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu May 29 18:10:00 2003 X-Original-Date: 29 May 2003 18:06:45 +0100 On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 17:26, Matt Wright wrote: > Hey guys, > > Is anyone here looking to flog an Xbox? I'd really like one to put Linux on > and my brother won't let me touch his. I want one for going away to uni. If > anyone has one they want to flog cheap without games then ca you drop me a > line? I think Play are doing em for 119 inc. -- Stuart Grimshaw On a child's superman costume: "Wearing of this garment does not enable you to fly." From konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk Thu May 29 19:31:39 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:31:39 +0100 Received: from mail18.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.67.23]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19LSBf-0004Ef-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 29 May 2003 19:31:39 +0100 Received: from modem-158.dusty-damsel.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.3.158] helo=debian333.birminghamcountryclub.org) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19LSBK-0005iK-K4 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 29 May 2003 19:31:24 +0100 From: Konrad =?utf-8?q?D=C4=85browski?= To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Blackburn] Xbox's User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <200305291726.59144.matt@consultmatt.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200305291726.59144.matt@consultmatt.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305291930.39378.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> X-RBL-Warning: (relays.osirusoft.com) [1] ckync, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1510 Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu May 29 19:32:00 2003 X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:30:38 +0100 Dnia czw 29. maja 2003 17:26, Matt Wright napisa=C5=82: > Hey guys, > > Is anyone here looking to flog an Xbox? I'd really like one to put Linux = on > and my brother won't let me touch his. I want one for going away to uni. = If > anyone has one they want to flog cheap without games then ca you drop me a > line? > > Regards, > > Matt I think there were some on e-bay some time ago that were really cheap. Konrad D. From agk@arachsys.com Sun Jun 15 17:44:18 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:44:18 +0100 Received: from dinopsis.arachsys.net ([212.74.117.6] ident=mail) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19Rac2-0000oC-00 ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:44:14 +0100 Received: from agk by dinopsis.arachsys.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19Rabb-00039F-00; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:43:47 +0100 From: Alasdair G Kergon To: UK Linux User Groups Message-ID: <20030615164347.GC18127@arachsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Subject: [Blackburn] Linux 2003 Conference & Tutorials, Edinburgh, 31 July - 3 Aug Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Jun 15 19:43:00 2003 X-Original-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:43:47 +0100 See below for details of this summer's linux conference in Edinburgh. Also, don't forget to register for the Linux User & Developer Exhibition at the Birmingham NEC, Tues 24 - Thurs 26 June: http://www.linuxuserexpo.com/ http://www.linuxexpo.org.uk/ .org Village with representatives of UK LUGs and Tim O'Reilly's free talk in London on Mon 23rd June celebrating 25 years of O'Reilly books: http://www.ukuug.org/events/TimOReilly/ Alasdair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Linux 2003 Conference & Tutorials, Edinburgh, 31 July - 3 Aug ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The UK Unix User Group's linux technical conference visits Edinburgh this year. It's a great way to broaden your knowledge and keep up-to-date with what's happening in the world of linux. Speakers include Jon 'maddog' Hall of Linux International and the new Debian Project Leader, Martin Michlmayr. The Edinburgh Linux User Group is helping with the preparations for the event, including the evening social programme. For further details please see http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2003/ Full-day Tutorials on Thursday 31st July ---------------------------------------- Inside the Linux Kernel - Stephen Tweedie (Red Hat) Python for Programmers - John Pinner & David Chan (Clockwork S/ware Syst.) Provisional Conference Programme: Friday 1st August - Sunday 3rd August ----------------------------------------------------------------------- * Business and Applications Core Business Applications for GNU/Linux The Government Gateway and Linux New Breakthroughs in Linux Supercomputing How to Get an Open Source-related Business Funded in a Down Economy Not Fired for Buying Linux? Quirks of Open Source Adopters' worldviews Free and Open Source Software in the Health Service * Embedded Systems Debian on Handheld Computers Real Time/Embedded C on Linux: An Introduction PIC Programming with Open Source Tools Linux on the eLAP Mini-ITX * GUI Development and Applications KDE Development Kroupware Cross-Platform GUI Development with WxWindows * Kernel and Device Drivers Ugly Ducklings: Resurrecting unmaintained code RelayFS: Transmitting data from kernel to userspace Simple, Robust Software RAID for Linux 2.6 XFS IrCOMM2k: Porting Linux IrDA to the Windows Kernel * Networks and Security Layer 2 Networking Vulnerabilities Forensics Linux Packet Filtering: The Future CONESYS: The COntent NEtwork SYstem * Productivity Power Shell Usage: Bash Tips & Tricks * Project Management Managing Debian Portability from a Debian perspective Software for Open Communities * Software Development Extreme Linux Programming - A Continuum N things every programmer should know about signal handling Using buildfarms to improve code * Sound Sound Systems on Linux: The Past and the Future Sweep: Real-world audio editing on Linux * Systems Administration Mass Unattended Linux Installations Using GNU/Linux to Deliver Windows XP to the Desktop * Web Automated Website Synthesis Efficiency in the XML Era Including speakers from IBM, Novell, Red Hat, SuSE, HP, SGI, GBdirect If you book before 30th June you can take advantage of the Early Bird rates e.g. UKP 30 for the conference (50% discount) or UKP 12.50 for students. (If you're not already a UKUUG member, you'll need to add the membership fee to this.) Sponsors: Positive Internet, Perforce, SGI, Astaro Web: http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2003/ Email: office@ukuug.org Tel: +44 1763 273 475 From agk@arachsys.com Tue Jun 17 12:58:12 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:58:12 +0100 Received: from dinopsis.arachsys.net ([212.74.117.6] ident=mail) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19SF6H-0004D4-00 ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:58:09 +0100 Received: from agk by dinopsis.arachsys.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19SF68-0002Pc-00; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:58:00 +0100 From: Alasdair G Kergon To: UK LUGs Message-ID: <20030617115800.GC29419@arachsys.com> Mail-Followup-To: UK LUGs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Subject: [Blackburn] Free conference places, LinuxUser & Developer, Birmingham, 24-26 June Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Jun 17 14:53:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:58:00 +0100 Each UK LUG is offered 2 free places each day at next week's conference! http://www.linuxuserexpo.com/ But responses are needed TODAY, Tuesday 17th June. Please would someone from your LUG who reads this in time, co-ordinate a response, providing the LUG name, and for each person who wants to attend, their name, email address, and which days (Tues/Weds/Thurs). Max. 2 people per LUG per day. Alasdair -- agk@lug.org.uk *************************************************** * Response Form: Reply to amyscott@sedulous.co.uk * *************************************************** LUG Name: Name: Email: Days: Tues/Weds/Thurs [Repeat those 3 lines for each person attending] ******************************* The LinuxUser and Developer Conference, taking place next week (24-26 June) at the NEC in Birmingham, would like to offer each UK LUG two free tickets. These normally cost ?90+VAT each for the three days. Time is short, so please contact amyscott@sedulous.co.uk with the names of the individuals you would like to nominate for each day of the conference by the end of today, Tuesday. The full conference programme is available at http://www.linuxuserexpo.com Cheers Daniel James News + Web Editor LinuxUser & Developer http://www.linuxuser.co.uk From ali@gwc.org.uk Sun Jun 22 22:11:23 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:11:23 +0100 Received: from frank.gwc.org.uk ([212.240.16.7] ident=root) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19UC7P-0002yw-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:11:23 +0100 Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.gwc.org.uk (8.12.9/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5MLBMlm022153 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:11:22 +0100 From: Alistair Riddell To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Message-ID: X-foo: bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Blackburn] Linux 2003 Conference & Tutorials, Edinburgh, 31 July - 3 Aug Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Jun 22 22:18:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:11:22 +0100 (BST) The 2003 UKUUG Linux technical conference is taking place in Edinburgh, Scotland from the 31 July to the 3 August 2003. The deadline for early-bird rates offering up to 50% off conference fees is 30th June so be sure to book your place before then. Highlights of the conference include over 30 speakers including Jon 'maddog' Hall of Linux International, the new Debian Project Leader, Martin Michlmayr and optional full-day tutorials including "Inside the Linux Kernel" by Stephen Tweedie of Red Hat. For full details see http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2003/ Sponsors: Positive Internet, Perforce, SGI, Astaro -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Sat Aug 09 23:16:05 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 23:16:05 +0100 Received: from host81-128-6-238.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.128.6.238] helo=ds9 ident=postfix) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19lc0L-0007bN-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 09 Aug 2003 23:16:05 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ds9 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7758F53C for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 23:13:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from ds9 ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ds9 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27628-01 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 23:13:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from RIOGRANDE (unknown [10.0.0.102]) by ds9 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB958F53B for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 23:13:54 +0100 (BST) From: "Matt Wright" To: Message-ID: <000801c35ec3$85038560$6600000a@RIOGRANDE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at consultmatt.co.uk Subject: [Blackburn] BLUG maintainer Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Aug 9 23:17:00 2003 X-Original-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 23:13:53 +0100 Hi guys, Bad news I'm afraid. Well sort of. I'm off to uni this year hopefully, well this September. This poses some problem with me being the LUG organiser person. I've been a shite one anyway as I've had some much on at school this year that I've totally failed to get it off the ground. Anyway I'm looking for someone to take over from me, basically the idea is that you are responsible for organising meets and the LUG in general. There is webspace for a web presence at lug.org.uk which only had a holding page on it at the moment but I can get the login details to anyone who wants to take over. Regards, Matt From konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk Mon Aug 25 17:59:44 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:59:44 +0100 Received: from tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.168.141]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19rKgy-0006hS-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:59:44 +0100 Received: from modem-391.guenon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([81.76.209.135]) by tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19rKgH-0001oS-3C for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:59:07 +0100 From: Konrad =?iso-8859-2?q?D=B1browski?= To: User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308251727.34179.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [Blackburn] ADSL (again) Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Aug 25 18:00:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:27:33 +0100 Hi I've still not had time to get ADSL, but now hopefully have a working USB card (I've spent most of today trying to work around IRQ conflicts- the USB card kept changing its IRQs so that they conflicted with my network card). Can anyone tell me how to get an ADSL modem to work? Which should I use? Also, it may be better to use a router, but someone told me that I'd need 2 IP addresses if I wanted to run a web server- is this true? (I'm running a P133 with Debian 3.0 and can upgrade to unstable if needed. Kernel version=2.4.18) Thanks very much Konrad D. From stephen@ribblesdale.org Tue Aug 26 11:59:31 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:59:31 +0100 Received: from btosat-217-159-63-69.btopenworld.com ([217.159.63.69] helo=daffymail.ribblesdale.org) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19rbXt-0005PR-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:59:30 +0100 Received: from default (unknown [192.168.3.137]) by daffymail.ribblesdale.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B91667070 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:58:28 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: i.Scribe v1.86 (Test34, Win32 v5.0, Release) Message-ID: References: <200308251727.34179.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> To: From: "Stephen Taylforth" Subject: Re: [Blackburn] ADSL (again) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: "Stephen Taylforth" List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Aug 26 12:00:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:58:28 +0100 Linux and USB is a grey area, Its far easier to use a router with a cat5 c= onnection=2E You don't need a second IP for a Web server=2E There are two = ways of doing it with one, Option 1, If your web server is the same machine as you surf on or is what= you use as a gateway to the internet for other machines on the network: Give the lan card in your server the IP address and use the router as a 'B= ridge' - ie it isn't really acting as a router, its a glorified modem that= knows all about connecting to the internet itself and just passes the stu= ff straight through to the Lan Card in the web server which then does the = routing if nessecery=2E Option 2, probably the easiest to sort=2E Give the router the IP address and have the server on the network with a p= rivate IP address (192=2E168=2E*=2E*) and set the router to route port 80 = (web) to the IP address of the server=2E So that any requests for port 80= arrive at the router via its Internet IP and the router then redirects it= to the private IP address of the web server=2E Any router worth its salt can be set up in either of these two ways=2E The= DLINK DSL500 (1 ethernet port) or DSL 504 (4 ethernet ports) are easy to = get hold of at reasonable money and will do the job (65-80 quid + vat)=2E = Stephen Taylforth IT Technician Ribblesdale School > Hi > > I've still not had time to get ADSL, but now hopefully have a working US= B > card (I've spent most of today trying to work around IRQ conflicts- the = > USB card kept changing its IRQs so that they conflicted with my network = > card)=2E > Can anyone tell me how to get an ADSL modem to work? Which should I use?= > Also, it may be better to use a router, but someone told me that I'd nee= d > 2 IP addresses if I wanted to run a web server- is this true? (I'm > running a P133 with Debian 3=2E0 and can upgrade to unstable if needed=2E= > Kernel version=3D2=2E4=2E18) > Thanks very much > Konrad D=2E > > > _______________________________________________ > Blackburn mailing list > Blackburn@mailman=2Elug=2Eorg=2Euk > http://mailman=2Elug=2Eorg=2Euk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn From sgrimshaw@plus.net Tue Aug 26 08:50:55 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:50:55 +0100 Received: from mail.plus.net.uk ([195.166.135.195]) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19rYbP-0002S3-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:50:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 22025 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2003 07:49:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO assetspider?portal) (172.29.25.5) by 130.gorillas.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 26 Aug 2003 07:49:29 -0000 X-DNS-Mismatch: X-SQ: B From: Stuart Grimshaw To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Blackburn] ADSL (again) User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200308251727.34179.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200308251727.34179.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308260850.19985.sgrimshaw@plus.net> Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Aug 26 18:56:00 2003 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:50:19 +0100 On Monday 25 Aug 2003 5:27 pm, Konrad D=B1browski wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to get an ADSL modem to work? Which should I use? Check out the hardware reviews at http://www.adslguide.co.uk/ they detail w= hih=20 are compat. with Linux. > Also, it may be better to use a router, but someone told me that I'd need= 2 > IP addresses if I wanted to run a web server- is this true? Yes, you'll actually need a block of 4, of which only 1 will be usable. Mos= t=20 ISP's will provide this though. From matt@consultmatt.co.uk Tue Aug 26 18:58:12 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:58:12 +0100 Received: from host81-128-6-238.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.128.6.238] helo=ds9 ident=postfix) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19ri56-0003gX-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:58:12 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ds9 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73ADB8F53E for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:54:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from ds9 ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ds9 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18603-03 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:54:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from RIOGRANDE (unknown [10.0.0.102]) by ds9 (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41128F53C for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:54:56 +0100 (BST) From: "Matt Wright" To: Subject: RE: [Blackburn] ADSL (again) Message-ID: <002e01c36bfb$28d2c1d0$6600000a@RIOGRANDE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <200308251727.34179.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at consultmatt.co.uk Sender: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Aug 26 18:59:02 2003 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:54:55 +0100 Hi, Could you tell me what ADSL modem you have. I've had experience with the Speedtouch USB (which would probably also suffice for a ST USB 330 as well) and a brief encounter with a Copperjet 800. Regards, Matt -----Original Message----- From: blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:blackburn-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Konrad D=B9browski Sent: 25 August 2003 17:28 To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Blackburn] ADSL (again) Hi I've still not had time to get ADSL, but now hopefully have a working USB card=20 (I've spent most of today trying to work around IRQ conflicts- the USB card=20 kept changing its IRQs so that they conflicted with my network card). Can anyone tell me how to get an ADSL modem to work? Which should I use? Also,=20 it may be better to use a router, but someone told me that I'd need 2 IP addresses if I wanted to run a web server- is this true? (I'm running a P133=20 with Debian 3.0 and can upgrade to unstable if needed. Kernel version=3D2.4.18) Thanks very much Konrad D. _______________________________________________ Blackburn mailing list Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn From konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk Sun Oct 26 16:00:28 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:00:28 +0000 Received: from mail18.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.67.23]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1ADnJc-0000sK-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:00:28 +0000 Received: from modem-149.foxface.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.15.149] helo=debiandual.birminghamcountryclub.org) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ADnJN-0001sA-Do for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:00:15 +0000 From: Konrad =?iso-8859-2?q?D=B1browski?= To: User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200310261658.36817.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> X-lugorguk-MailScanner: Not checked for viruses Subject: [Blackburn] NFS X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk, Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:00:29 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:58:36 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:00:29 -0000 Hi Does anyone know how to set up NFS? I keep getting error messages saying: "mount: RPC: Program not registered" Has anybody got any idea of why this is or what I'm doing wrong? Thanks Konrad From konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 10 22:21:40 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:21:40 +0000 Received: from tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.168.141]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1AJKPi-0002VL-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:21:38 +0000 Received: from modem-1170.fruitbat.dialup.pol.co.uk ([81.76.196.146] helo=debiandual.birminghamcountryclub.org) by tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AJKOG-0001p6-Fu for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:20:13 +0000 From: Konrad =?iso-8859-2?q?D=B1browski?= To: User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311102148.47598.konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-lugorguk-MailScanner: Not checked for viruses X-lugorguk-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.524, required 7, BAYES_01 -1.52) Subject: [Blackburn] Work Experience X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: konraddabrowski@yahoo.co.uk, Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:21:41 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:56:50 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:21:41 -0000 Hi all! Because of school, I'm going to have to do work experience either next September or during some school holidays. Does anyone know of some Linux-related companies in or around Blackburn where I might be able to do this? Thanks, Konrad From agk@arachsys.com Thu Apr 15 22:46:34 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:46:34 +0100 Received: from dinopsis.arachsys.net ([212.74.117.6] ident=mail) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1BEEgn-00057E-00 ; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:46:29 +0100 Received: from agk by dinopsis.arachsys.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BEEga-0004b3-00; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:46:16 +0100 From: Alasdair G Kergon To: All UK LUGS Message-ID: <20040415214616.GG22205@arachsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-lugorguk-MailScanner: Not checked for viruses X-lugorguk-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-3.24, required 7, BAYES_00 -4.90, SUB_FREE_OFFER 1.66) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:09:04 +0100 Cc: Subject: [Blackburn] Free conference places for UK LUGs at LUDEX Conference X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:46:34 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:46:16 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:46:34 -0000 Once again Linux User & Developer is making a last-minute offer to each UK LUG of upto 2 free places for the conference at the show in London next Tuesday 20th & Wednesday 21st April. http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/expo/index.php?option=content&task=section&id=7&Itemid=56 But you need to respond by 12.30pm, Friday 16th April. To request a place, please supply Name Contact email address LUG name to emma.selby@livepublishing.co.uk Alasdair -- agk@lug.org.uk From agk@arachsys.com Sun Jul 04 23:55:55 2004 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 23:55:55 +0100 Received: from dinopsis.arachsys.net ([212.74.117.6] ident=mail) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1BhFtk-0000mO-00 ; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 23:55:48 +0100 Received: from agk by dinopsis.arachsys.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BhFtb-0000VO-00; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 23:55:39 +0100 From: Alasdair G Kergon To: UK LUGS Message-ID: <20040704225539.GP24342@arachsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-lugorguk-MailScanner: Not checked for viruses X-lugorguk-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 7, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:56:30 +0100 Cc: Subject: [Blackburn] Linux 2004 Conference & Tutorials, Leeds, 5-8 August X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 22:55:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 23:55:39 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 22:55:55 -0000 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Linux 2004 Conference & Tutorials, Leeds, Thur 5th - Sun 8th August ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2004/ * Early-bird discount is available only until Tuesday 6th July * * Some accommodation is still available at just GBP 19.97 a night * The event begins with 2 full-day tutorials on Thursday. Then the 2-track 3-day conference runs from Friday to Sunday. You're also be encouraged to take part in a GPG keysigning event (with explanations and assistance for people unfamiliar with GPG). Full-day tutorials on Thursday 5th August ----------------------------------------- Security-enhanced linux - Stephen Tweedie (Red Hat) SELinux is a major new security feature already available in cutting-edge linux distributions based on 2.6 kernels including Debian and Fedora. All professional linux sysadmins will need to understand it as it becomes mainstream over the next year or so. Troubleshooting Linux Networking - Niall Mansfield (UIT Cambridge) A linux-based introduction to TCP/IP networks where the emphasis is practical rather than theoretical, covering situations you're likely to encounter. We use everyday tools to show you what's happening on your network. This helps you understand TCP/IP at a deeper level and is also great for troubleshooting. Provisional Conference Programme: Friday 6th August - Sunday 8th August ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Networking and Security * Wardriving with Kismet and GPSdrive - Antony Stone - Rockstone Ltd * Firewalls - Antony Stone - Rockstone Ltd * Cryptonit - Mathias Brossard - IDEALX * 100 things to do with a VPN server - Jim Jackson - University of Leeds Desktop and Applications * Gnome 2.6: the Linux Desktop - Michael Meeks - Novell * OpenOffice.org - Michael Meeks - Novell * The Fonts Don't Work: A Practical Guide to Unicode on Unix - Aaron Crane * Giving Presentations Using Linux (and avoiding Powerpoint) - Simon Myers * Developing a Plug-In structure for your KDE application - Jesper Pedersen * An application for managing digital images - Jesper Pedersen * Report Writing Workshop using OpenOffice.org - Clockwork Systems * The FlightGear Flight Simulator - Alex Perry - Quantum Magnetics * Power 'Vim' Usage: Tips & Tricks for Everyday Editing - Simon Myers * High-performance 3D Graphics: How Linux will overtake Windows - Andy Fenselau - Silicon Graphics, Inc Embedded Systems * Porting Linux onto a Digital Camera - Shigeki Ouchi - RICOH Company Ltd. * Porting Linux to the XDA-2 PDA - Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton * Eddy-current Detection with Linux: Finding nails in your Walls and Cracks in your Aircraft - Alex Perry - Quantum Magnetics * Emdebian: Embedded development the Debian way - Philippe De Swert * YAFFS - A filesystem designed for NAND flash - Wookey - Aleph One Ltd. * The business case for Embedded Linux - Jon Masters Kernel, Clustering and Filesystems * Linux Filesystems - Christoph Hellwig - LST e.V. * Storage Area Network and Parallel File Systems: High-throughput file access for your cluster - Jos van Wezel * The GFS Cluster Filesystem - Steve Whitehouse - Chygwyn Ltd. * WORKSHOP: Diagnosing System Hangs and Crashes using lkcd and dprobes - Richard J Moore - IBM UK Ltd * Grids for e-Science in Europe - Ruediger Berlich Project Management * Debian: The Kernel-neutral OS - Matthew Garrett - University of Cambridge * Quality Issues in Free Software Projects - Martin Michlmayr - Debian * Open Source Development Techniques - Jake Stride - University of Warwick Systems Administration * 1000s of Linux installations but only 1 administrator - Owen LeBlanc - Manchester Computing, University of Manchester * Knoppix workshop: Building your own Live CD - Ian Naylor * UoSLinux: A Linux LiveCD distribution for use in Higher Education - Robert L Warrender - University of Sunderland * Tea, Earl Grey, Hot: Replication with WvSync - Dave Coombs * WvStreams: An Easier Way to World Domination - Dave Coombs * MailScanner - Julian Field - University of Southampton Case Studies * Bringing Open Source to the West Midlands - Open Advantage * An EMC Vehicle Testing System using Open Source - Clockwork Systems * Commercial Wide Area Deployment of Linux - Clockwork Systems Miscellaneous * PCI: Past, Present and Future - Matthew Wilcox - Hewlett Packard * RPM Python and friends - Paul Nasrat - Red Hat * The Foundation for Information Policy Research - Steve Coast * Generating ideas for software integration and against non-inventive patents - Siu-wai Leung and Dave Robertson - University of Edinburgh If you book on or before Tuesday 6th July you can take advantage of the Early Bird rates e.g. UKP 45 for the 3-day conference (50% discount) or just UKP 15 for students. (If you're not already a UKUUG member, you'll need to add the membership fee to this - details on website.) There are also still opportunities for sponsors and exhibitors: contact office@ukuug.org for details. Web: http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2004/ Email: office@ukuug.org Tel: +44 1763 273 475 From agk@dinopsis.arachsys.com Sun Feb 19 23:49:52 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:49:52 +0000 Received: from dinopsis.arachsys.com ([82.211.77.6] ident=mail) by xinit.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1FAyGz-0000Nq-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:47:25 +0000 Received: from agk by dinopsis.arachsys.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1FAyH0-0000KD-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:47:26 +0000 To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk From: Alasdair G Kergon Message-Id: Subject: [Blackburn] FOSDEM: Brussels, Sat 25 - Sun 26 Feb 2006 X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:49:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:47:26 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:49:52 -0000 The purpose of this email is to invite you to attend the 6th FOSDEM on the weekend of 25th and 26th of February 2006 in Brussels. Previous events were hugely successful with more than 3000 developers coming from all over the world to attend talks given by famous figures of the Free Software and Open Source community. See http://www.fosdem.org/ for more information. This year's speakers include: Alex Russell, Project Leader of the Dojo Toolkit Axel Hecht, Member of Mozilla Europe's Board of Directors. Crispin Cowan, Architect of the AppArmor Project David Roundy, Lead Developer of the Darcs Project Geert Bevin, Lead Developer of RIFE Greg Stein, One of the Early Designers of the Subversion Project Ian Pratt, Leader and Chief Architect of the Xen Project Jan Janak, Core Team Member of SER (The SIP Express Router) Jason Huggins, Original Author and Core Team Member of Selenium Jean-Marc Valin, Main Author and Maintainer of Speex Jeff Waugh, The Challenge of the GNU/Linux Desktop Jon Haslam, DTrace Project Jon Trowbridge, Maintainer of Beagle Julian Seward, valgrind Founder and Project Lead Mark Spencer, Founder of Asterisk Massimiliano Pala, OpenCA Project Manager and Chief Designer Michael Meeks, OpenOffice.org Richard M Stallman, Leader of the FSF Tomasz Kojm, Original Author and Project Leader of ClamAV Uriel M. Pereira, Plan 9 Hacker And many others who will be giving talks and tutorials... Several Free or Open Source Software projects have decided to hold a meeting during FOSDEM. It is a great occasion to meet core developers in the following developers' rooms: Ada, Calibre, GNU Classpath, Debian, Embedded softwares, Gentoo, GNOME, GNUStep, Jabber, KDE, Linux on Laptops, Mozilla, Opengroupware, openSUSE, Tcl/Tk, X.org. All those rooms have an internal schedule, including talks and presentations from lead developers. Don't miss other FOSDEM initiatives like the Key Signing Party, or the LPI exams. FOSDEM's goal is to provide Free Software and Open Source developers and communities the opportunity to learn and discuss the latest developments in the Free and Open Source arena and to promote the development and the benefits of Free and Open Source solutions. The speakers mainly talk about technologies and make technical speeches. The event is totally free. This is a non-commercial event organised by people from the community. So we would like to thank our sponsors who have understood this and helped us making FOSDEM possible to happen this year again in the same spirit. Those include: O'Reilly, Google, Argon7, Canonical, ESCAUX, GNU/Linux Magazine France, Linux Magazine, Misc, Nokia, Novell, SUN Microsystems, Think Wize, Freshmeat.net, Linux Magazin, Sourceforge.net and all of our donators without who organizing such an event wouldn't be possible. We encourage you to support FOSDEM if you appreciate the event and want it to continue in the same spirit. More information about the FOSDEM 2006 support operation at: http://www.fosdem.org/2006/index/support/ We hope to see you there. The FOSDEM team pr@fosdem.org From agk@dinopsis.arachsys.com Mon Feb 20 01:46:12 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:46:12 +0000 Received: from dinopsis.arachsys.com ([82.211.77.6] ident=mail) by xinit.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1FAyVe-00013t-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 00:02:34 +0000 Received: from agk by dinopsis.arachsys.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1FAyVZ-0001tA-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 00:02:29 +0000 To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk From: Alasdair G Kergon Message-Id: Subject: [Blackburn] FW: UKUUG Spring Conference 2006 - Durham, 21-23 March X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:46:12 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 00:02:29 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:46:12 -0000 The UKUUG's annual Large Installation Systems Administration (LISA) conference will take place in Durham from Tuesday 21st to Thursday 23rd March 2006: http://www.ukuug.org/events/spring2006/ This is the UK's only conference aimed specifically at systems and network administrators. It attracts a large number of professionals from sites of all shapes and sizes. As well as the technical talks, the conference provides a friendly environment for delegates to meet, learn, and enjoy lively debate on a host of subjects. The conference itself will be preceded by a full-day tutorial on "Managing Samba 3.0", with core Samba developer Gerald Carter joining us from the US. Delegates then have a choice of two workshops on the first morning of the main conference: "LDAP in depth", or "Firewalling with OpenBSD's PF packet filter". The main conference stream will focus on systems administration: the nuts and bolts of running large computer installations. The keynote will be given by James Youngman, now of Google Inc, who will be giving us the low down on how Google's systems are put together. This year, for the first time, we have almost an entire stream dedicated to a BSD MiniCon, and are pleased to welcome Dru Lavigne who will be joining us from Canada, as well as a number of speakers from the UK BSD community. We hope you will be able to join us in Durham for what is set to be one of our biggest and best conferences of recent years. -- Ray Miller, UKUUG - the UK's Unix and Open Systems User Group http://www.ukuug.org From agk@dinopsis.arachsys.com Mon Jun 05 22:50:19 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:50:19 +0100 Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by xinit.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1FnMxn-00068J-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:50:19 +0100 Received: from dinopsis.arachsys.com ([82.211.77.6]) by mail-in-01.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1FnMxW-0000FY-T3 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:50:18 +0000 Received: from agk by dinopsis.arachsys.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1FnMxU-000074-00 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:50:00 +0100 To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk From: Alasdair G Kergon Message-Id: X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3; pts rule name description -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:50:18 +0000. If you have any query please contact postmaster@lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:50:18 +0000 Subject: [Blackburn] Linux 2006 Conference and Tutorials, Brighton, 29 June - 2 July X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:50:20 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:50:00 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:50:20 -0000 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Linux 2006 Conference & Tutorials, Brighton, Thur 29th June - Sun 2nd July ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Full details at http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2006/ * Early-bird discount is available only until Thursday 8th June * The event begins with a choice of tutorials on Thursday. Then the twin-track 3-day conference runs from Friday to Sunday. Tutorials on Thursday 29th June ------------------------------- Full-day: Building and Maintaining Software Packages with RPM - Jos Vos Morning: Optimising MySQL Databases - Mark Leith (MySQL) Afternoon: Using SystemTap and kdump to diagnose kernel-related problems - Richard Moore (IBM) Introductory talks: Saturday 1st July ------------------------------------- This section of the conference is aimed at people who are relatively new to linux and is free of charge. Lunch is included if you register on the website before Thursday 15th June. Programme so far: * An introduction to Networking - Antony Stone * Getting Started with Apache - Jim Kissel (OSM Ltd.) * Securing Linux - Nils Magnus * What are all these distributions and how should I choose one? - Stuart Yeates (OSS Watch) * Creating DVD videos on Linux and Unix systems - Ben Hutchings Further talks to be confirmed - watch the website. Provisional Conference Programme: Friday 30th June - Sunday 2nd July -------------------------------------------------------------------- Advocacy * Towards an All-Party Parliamentary Open Source Group - Leslie Fletcher * State of Play: Free Software, ready or not? - Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton * Introduction to the politics of Linux - Andrew Nicolson (S'hampton Inst) * Advocating Linux - Jono Bacon (OpenAdvantage/LUGRadio) Case Studies * Apache at The Register: Building a Large Website from mod_rewrite and mod_include - Aaron Crane * 30 million and counting: An insight into a enterprise level open source systems - Neil McGovern (Fotopic.net) * How does OSS stack up? - Mark Taylor & Duncan Gibb (Sirius Corporation) * The State of Open Source in Higher and Further Education - Stuart Yeates * OpenStreetMap: The First Year - Steve Coast * Linux at Home - John Pinner (Clockwork Software Systems) * User Controlled Virtual Curtains - Torsten Spindler (ETH Zurich) Clustering and Virtualisation * Linux HA v2: One CRM to rule them all - Lars Marowsky-Bree (SuSE Labs) * How Hardware Supported Virtualization in Xen works - Mats Petersson (AMD) * A low-cost Linux based graphics cluster for cultural visualisation in virtual environments - Aidan Delaney (University of Brighton) Desktop and Applications * Desktop Linux Innovation at Novell - Ted Haeger (Novell) * SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop: Under the Hood - Ted Haeger (Novell) * (Free)NX - Remote Desktop Access, Present and Future - Fabian Franz * OpenOffice.org beyond 2.0... - Michael Meeks (Novell) * Kubuntu Dapper and KDE 4: The GNU/Linux Desktop - Jonathan Riddell (Canonical) * MySQL Roadmap - Mark Leith (MySQL) * Settling on decent Python Web Technologies - Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton Grid * ROOT and PROOF - Ruediger Berlich (Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe) * The Interactive Europen Grid project (int.eu.grid) - Marcus Hardt Kernel * Porting uCLinux on a Coldfire processor: Writing Frame Buffer Drivers - Craig Duffy & Edwin Langley (Bristol UWE) * Flash memories and MTD Subsystem under Linux Networking and Internet Software Group - C-DAC, Pune University * The Linux Error Detection and Correction subsystem (EDAC) - Tim Small Platforms * Hardware hacking on a budget; the Amstrad E3 - Jonathan McDowell Productivity * Sed: more than just s/foo/bar/ - Tethys The programme is subject to change - check website for up-to-date information. If you book on or before Thursday 8th June you can take advantage of the Early Bird rates e.g. 65 pounds for the 3-day conference instead of 100. or just 25 pounds for students. (If you're not already a UKUUG member, you'll need to add the membership fee to this - details on website.) Conference rates also include a ticket for the Conference Dinner on Friday evening (subject to capacity), sponsored by The Positive Internet Company, and a copy of the conference CD sponsored by Novell. There are also still opportunities for sponsors and exhibitors: contact office@ukuug.org for details. 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If you have any query please contact postmaster@lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:00:24 +0000 Subject: [Blackburn] Hackspace NW X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:00:24 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:00:11 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:00:24 -0000 Hackspace - a place for hacking. Playful invention with hardware, from Arduino to 3D printers. As one of the hackspaces puts it: "We're looking to create a hackerspace where anyone interested in technology, or digital or electronic art can meet, socialise and collaborate." There are hackspaces all over the world [1], and now the UK. A new group [2] is trying to set up hackspaces in London [3] & Birmingham [4]. Why not the North West you ask? Well, I asked anyway ;) - so now we have a NW group - come and join the mailing list [5]. WHERE? Members of Liverpool LUG have expressed an interest, and want to tie it in with planned workshops & the local arduino community. In Manchester the local coworking group are interested in sharing the space. In Stockport we're looking at a storey of a nice mill building [6], and hoping to find a community of people to join in. In Bangor there's a social enterprise start-up that would integrate very well with the space. JOIN IN If you're in N Wales or NW England, and interested in creative, fun (or profitable) things to do with computers, or would like to link such things with social action, perhaps, join the list. These things will only work with *people* - I'm committing a little time to help get these off the ground, but it'll only work if we all muck in. WHAT NEXT? If you just want to follow what's happening follow us on Twitter [7], sign up & lurk on the Google Group, or wait until we set up an [announce] mailing list. [1] http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hacker_Spaces [2] http://www.hackspace.org.uk [3] http://london.hackspace.org.uk/ [4] http://groups.google.com/group/birmingham-hack-space [5] http://groups.google.com/group/NW-hack-space [6] http://twitter.com/broadstonemill [7] http://twitter.com/hsNW Please feel free to copy & re-post this e-mail, Tweet it, Dig/Reddit/social bookmark it/link to it at http://www.goodgnus.org/2009/04/more-hackspace/ - or just talk about it to anyone who might be interested in joining in the hackspace fun :-) Thanks, - Richard -- http://twitter.com/richardsmedley From jon@rosslug.org.uk Mon Oct 18 20:25:08 2010 Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by mailman.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P7wGa-0004VH-Lz for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:25:08 +0000 Received: from omega.myqiq.info ([174.36.196.139]) by mail-in-01.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P7wGa-0004j5-04 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:25:08 +0000 Received: from cpc3-rawt1-0-0-cust253.10-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.1.244.254]:41639 helo=laptop1.intra.arcnet.co.uk) by omega.myqiq.info with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P7wGU-0007Id-DB for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:24:38 +0000 Message-ID: <4CBCAD1B.3080309@rosslug.org.uk> From: "Jon @ RossLUG/ELLUG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100921 Fedora/3.1.4-1.fc13 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090503000604020209050902" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - omega.myqiq.info X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - mailman.lug.org.uk X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rosslug.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5; pts rule name description 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:25:08 +0000. If you have any query please contact postmaster@lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:25:08 +0000 Subject: [Blackburn] Rossendale & East Lancs LUG X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: jon@rosslug.org.uk, Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:25:08 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:24:59 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:25:08 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090503000604020209050902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Just a quick note to say hello and that a few of us are currently in the process of organising a LUG for the Rossendale and East Lancs area. If anyone is interested in joining us at meets or subscribing to our site/mailing lists you are more than welcome. Our main site is at http://www.rosslug.org.uk our mailing list signup page is at http://www.rosslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/rosslug_rosslug.org.uk Thanks for reading. Jon RossLUG/ELLUG Admin --------------090503000604020209050902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all,

Just a quick note to say hello and that a few of us are currently in the process of organising a LUG for the Rossendale and East Lancs area.
If anyone is interested in joining us at meets or subscribing to our site/mailing lists you are more than welcome.

Our main site is at http://www.rosslug.org.uk
our mailing list signup page is at http://www.rosslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/rosslug_rosslug.org.uk

Thanks for reading.

Jon

RossLUG/ELLUG Admin --------------090503000604020209050902-- From jon@rosslug.org.uk Wed Nov 03 14:50:28 2010 Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by mailman.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PDefU-0008Gg-1Z; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:50:28 +0000 Received: from omega.myqiq.info ([174.36.196.139]) by mail-in-01.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PDefT-0006rZ-5d; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:50:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56729 helo=rosslug.org.uk) by omega.myqiq.info with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PDefM-00057Z-3T; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:49:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Jon @ RossLUG/ELLUG" To: , , , , , , Message-ID: X-Sender: jon@rosslug.org.uk User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - omega.myqiq.info X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - mailman.lug.org.uk X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rosslug.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5; pts rule name description -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:50:27 +0000. If you have any query please contact postmaster@lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:50:27 +0000 Subject: [Blackburn] East Lancs LUG November Meet X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: jon@rosslug.org.uk, Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:50:28 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:50:20 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:50:28 -0000 Hi all, Hope all don't mind me posting here, The East Lancs LUG will be holding its first meeting on Monday 8th November at 7:30pm The venue will be The Woolpack (not the one off the Telly) just outside Haslingden, http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?hl=en&expIds=17259,24416,26637,27219,27357&xhr=t&cp=11&gl=uk&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=woolpack+haslingden&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=woolpack&hnear=Haslingden,+Rossendale&cid=7588344505633162993 Ignore the link to the actual pub on there as it seems to be pointing to the wrong pub. It's a nice pub and apparently has WiFi (the cloud if any have accounts) so feel free to bring laptops. All are free to come and join us. Thanks Jon Rossendale / East Lancs LUG From jon@rosslug.org.uk Mon Dec 06 23:14:01 2010 Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by mailman.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPkFt-0002oq-5r for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:14:01 +0000 Received: from omega.myqiq.info ([174.36.196.139]) by mail-in-01.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPkFs-0004xH-Jd for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:14:01 +0000 Received: from cpc3-rawt1-0-0-cust253.10-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.1.244.254]:48972 helo=workstation.intra.arcnet.co.uk) by omega.myqiq.info with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPkFm-00063B-VL for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:13:31 +0000 Message-ID: <4CFD6E2F.5080408@rosslug.org.uk> From: "Jon @ RossLUG / ELLUG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101103 Fedora/1.0-0.33.b2pre.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - omega.myqiq.info X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - mailman.lug.org.uk X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rosslug.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5; pts rule name description -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:14:01 +0000. If you have any query please contact postmaster@lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:14:01 +0000 Subject: [Blackburn] Fwd: [RossLUG] December Meet X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: jon@rosslug.org.uk, Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:14:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:13:51 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:14:01 -0000 Hi All, Looking to arrange the East Lancs LUG December meet. I think the location last time was pretty decent and will be ideal until we maybe have an event which requires something different. So the details for the meet: Date: 2nd Monday of the month, 13th December Time: 7:30pm Location: The Woolpack, Haslingden http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?hl=en&expIds=17259,24416,26637,27219,27357&xhr=t&cp=11&gl=uk&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=woolpack+haslingden&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=woolpack&hnear=Haslingden,+Rossendale&cid=7588344505633162993 All welcome! Fetch along any problems anyone is having and we'll discuss. I'm hopefully going to be bringing a laptop with a media streaming setup i've been tinkering with. See you there. 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=0A=0A = --0-796479041-1297201689=:88970-- From jon@rosslug.org.uk Wed Apr 06 22:40:32 2011 Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by mailman.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7bOq-0004Yy-AP for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 22:40:32 +0000 Received: from omega.myqiq.info ([174.36.196.139]) by mail-in-01.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7bH7-0004Xc-5X for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 22:32:33 +0000 Received: from cpc3-rawt1-0-0-cust253.10-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.1.244.254]:45678 helo=workstation.intra.arcnet.co.uk) by omega.myqiq.info with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7bH1-0000GQ-L7 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 22:32:03 +0000 Message-ID: <4D9CE9F8.7090100@rosslug.org.uk> From: Jon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Fedora/3.1.9-0.39.b3pre.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - omega.myqiq.info X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - mailman.lug.org.uk X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rosslug.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5; pts rule name description -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Wed, 06 Apr 2011 22:32:33 +0000. If you have any query please contact postmaster@lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Wed, 06 Apr 2011 22:32:33 +0000 Subject: [Blackburn] RossLUG April Meeting X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: jon@rosslug.org.uk, Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 22:40:32 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 23:32:24 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 22:40:32 -0000 Hi all, Just to let you know the RossLUG April meeting will go ahead on Monday 11th April @ 7:30PM The venue will be the usual location of the Woolpack. As usual I'll fetch the latest Linux Format along. Hope to see you there. Cheers Jon From jon@rosslug.org.uk Fri Jun 10 10:54:46 2011 Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by mailman.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QUzMU-0002NC-QM for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:54:46 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by mail-in-01.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QUzAR-0003tA-1Z for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:42:19 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20110610104212.ZXLP10265.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:42:12 +0100 Received: from zeddicus.localdomain ([86.1.244.254]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with ESMTP id <20110610104212.LHYF5924.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@zeddicus.localdomain> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:42:12 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zeddicus.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9F05C6AB8 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:42:10 +0100 (BST) From: Jonathan Archer To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Organization: RossLUG Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-pLEq1K+W9DIGWB5uus8/" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.2 (3.0.2-1.fc15) Message-ID: <1307702256.7218.1.camel@ste-dynamic17.eldon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=-hyCGDrDAAAA:8 a=ifU8lj55lpBvirjj3rMA:9 a=0LE5VyvyDqERf982qkMA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Er2gK3W4G3kA:10 a=YpC1AgAgPNG7twCLh6wA:9 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5; pts rule name description -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:42:19 +0000. If you have any query please contact postmaster@lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:42:19 +0000 Subject: [Blackburn] RossLUG une Meet X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: jon@rosslug.org.uk, Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:54:46 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:37:36 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:54:46 -0000 --=-pLEq1K+W9DIGWB5uus8/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, As I'm away next week I'd like to schedule this months meet on 20th June.(3rd Monday instead of 2nd of the month) Usual location of The Woolpack @ 7:30pm Topics of discussion for the month will probably include: Fedora 15 & Gnome 3 with Gnome Shell Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity Comparing both of the above. Oracle releasing OpenOffice.org to the Apache Foundation - but retaining copyright of the name And various others. Cheers Jon BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:1.0 BEGIN:VEVENT DTSTART:20110620T193000 DTEND:20110620T220000 LOCATION;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:The Woolpack, Haslingden DESCRIPTION;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Monthly Linux user group meeting. Topics of discussion for the month will probably include: Fedora 15 & Gnome 3 with Gnome Shell Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity Comparing both of the above. Oracle releasing OpenOffice.org to the Apache Foundation - but retaining copyright of the name And various others. SUMMARY;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:RossLUG June Meet PRIORITY:3 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:1.0 BEGIN:VEVENT DTSTART:20110620T193000 DTEND:20110620T220000 LOCATION;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:The Woolpack, Haslingden DESCRIPTION;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Monthly Linux user group meeting. Topics of discussion for the month will probably include: Fedora 15 & Gnome 3 with Gnome Shell Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity Comparing both of the above. Oracle releasing OpenOffice.org to the Apache Foundation - but retaining copyright of the name And various others. SUMMARY;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:RossLUG June Meet PRIORITY:3 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR --=-pLEq1K+W9DIGWB5uus8/ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=RossLUG-June.ics Content-Type: text/calendar; name="RossLUG-June.ics"; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:1.0 BEGIN:VEVENT DTSTART:20110620T193000 DTEND:20110620T220000 LOCATION;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:The Woolpack, Haslingden DESCRIPTION;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Monthly Linux user group meeting. Topics of discussion for the month will probably include: Fedora 15 & Gnome 3 with Gnome Shell Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity Comparing both of the above. Oracle releasing OpenOffice.org to the Apache Foundation - but retaining copyright of the name And various others. SUMMARY;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:RossLUG June Meet PRIORITY:3 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR --=-pLEq1K+W9DIGWB5uus8/-- From webmaster@maxiwebs.co.uk Tue Jun 14 18:41:14 2011 Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by mailman.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QWYY6-0000fu-S3 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:41:14 +0000 Received: from raven.host-ns.co.uk ([213.229.70.29]) by mail-in-01.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QWYLk-0001lL-UK for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:28:29 +0000 Received: from cpc2-blbn8-2-0-cust93.10-1.cable.virginmedia.com ([81.96.232.94] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by raven.host-ns.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWYLN-0000Da-JL for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:28:08 +0000 From: Peter McConville To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID: <1308076084.3528.4.camel@acer-ubuntu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - raven.host-ns.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - mailman.lug.org.uk X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - maxiwebs.co.uk X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5; pts rule name description -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0005] Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:28:29 +0000. If you have any query please contact postmaster@lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:28:29 +0000 Subject: [Blackburn] 20th June Meeting X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:41:14 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:28:04 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:41:14 -0000 Hi there, I'm interested in joining you for the LUG meet on the 20th. Whereabouts is the Woolpack pub? Regards, Peter McConville. From jon@rosslug.org.uk Fri Jun 17 17:22:09 2011 Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by mailman.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QXckD-00007W-Ss for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:22:09 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by mail-in-01.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QXcXf-0006ow-G1 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:09:12 +0000 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20110617170905.PFBK3152.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:09:05 +0100 Received: from zeddicus.localdomain ([86.1.244.254]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with ESMTP id <20110617170905.QYXD25656.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@zeddicus.localdomain> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:09:05 +0100 Received: by zeddicus.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 101) id 5DAEB5C6B6E; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:09:03 +0100 (BST) To: Blackburn Linux User Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jon Archer Organization: RossLUG /ELLUG Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <1308076084.3528.4.camel@acer-ubuntu> References: <1308076084.3528.4.camel@acer-ubuntu> Message-ID: X-Sender: jon@rosslug.org.uk User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.5-rc X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=Pib1zIYJhSUA:10 a=OFMg45p0444A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=3HXcirkRAAAA:8 a=MQXCB4-KAAAA:8 a=vSjvsHa_AAAA:8 a=a4imcgMuRVMsZr__MHoA:9 a=_Zr9A4zcj9eAJdNL_UYA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=d61zG2ixhkczH4aw:21 a=6DbM4U9yEA4fQeQ3:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5; pts rule name description -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:09:12 +0000. If you have any query please contact postmaster@lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:09:12 +0000 Subject: Re: [Blackburn] 20th June Meeting X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: jon@rosslug.org.uk, Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:22:09 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:09:03 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:22:09 -0000 Hi Peter, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I've been away. It would be great for you to join us, we're a small group but i think this months turnout may be a record. The Woolpack is just outside Haslingden, near the big Tescos just off the A56. http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=7588344505633162993&q=the+woolpack+BB4+6LN&hl=en&sll=53.693438,-2.312662&sspn=0.006295,0.006295&ie=UTF8&ll=53.699298,-2.333822&spn=0,0&z=15 Also, if you sign up for the mailing list http://www.rosslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/rosslug_rosslug.org.uk you will be notified of events etc. Kind Regards Jon On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:28:04 +0100, Peter McConville wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm interested in joining you for the LUG meet on the 20th. > > Whereabouts is the Woolpack pub? > > Regards, > > Peter McConville. > > > _______________________________________________ > Blackburn mailing list > Blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackburn From jon@rosslug.org.uk Mon Aug 08 09:59:01 2011 Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by mailman.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QqMbt-0002QE-8b for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 09:59:01 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by mail-in-01.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QqMbs-00071Q-Hi for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 09:59:01 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20110808095842.KHGH5301.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:58:42 +0100 Received: from zeddicus.localdomain ([82.3.169.9]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with ESMTP id <20110808095842.LOUM20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@zeddicus.localdomain> for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:58:42 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeddicus.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4422801E0 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:58:39 +0100 (BST) From: Jonathan Archer To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Organization: RossLUG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.2 (3.0.2-3.fc15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312797519.2212.4.camel@sandbox1> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JvdXmxIgLJv2/GthKqHpGJEEHukvLcvELVXUanXFreg= c=1 sm=0 a=mkObOXLBJooA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=3HXcirkRAAAA:8 a=GTA4bdinAAAA:8 a=MQXCB4-KAAAA:8 a=XB1zZW6K1vLkDE264B8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=0fCz72xAqakA:10 a=7qLNl3OVf9kB7akP:21 a=GEcoi2cMJevaF7--:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5; pts rule name description -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Mon, 08 Aug 2011 09:59:01 +0000. If you have any query please contact postmaster@lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Mon, 08 Aug 2011 09:59:01 +0000 Subject: [Blackburn] [Fwd: [RossLUG] August Meet] X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: jon@rosslug.org.uk, Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 09:59:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 10:58:39 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 09:59:01 -0000 -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Jonathan Archer Reply-to: rosslug@rosslug.org.uk To: rosslug@rosslug.org.uk Subject: [RossLUG] August Meet Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:22:12 +0100 Hi all, It's almost that time again, this months meeting is almost upon us. Usual time and place of 7:30pm on Monday 8th August at the Woolpack http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=woolpack+inn +haslingden&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl All welcome. Hopefully see you there. Jon _______________________________________________ RossLUG mailing list RossLUG@rosslug.org.uk http://rosslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/rosslug_rosslug.org.uk From jon@rosslug.org.uk Mon Sep 12 08:55:53 2011 Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by mailman.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R32Iy-0006Vc-V7 for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:55:52 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by mail-in-01.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R32Iy-0000VN-IS for blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:55:52 +0000 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20110912085546.TWOT17426.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:55:46 +0100 Received: from zeddicus.localdomain ([82.3.169.9]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with ESMTP id <20110912085546.OFDV25656.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@zeddicus.localdomain> for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:55:46 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeddicus.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F362800D5 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:55:42 +0100 (BST) From: Jonathan Archer To: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk Organization: RossLUG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.2 (3.0.2-3.fc15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1315817743.2122.10.camel@sandbox1> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JvdXmxIgLJv2/GthKqHpGJEEHukvLcvELVXUanXFreg= c=1 sm=0 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=GTA4bdinAAAA:8 a=cW46QBh9fr8FZ1qrFlcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5; pts rule name description -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:55:52 +0000. If you have any query please contact postmaster@lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:55:52 +0000 Subject: [Blackburn] RossLUG September Meet X-BeenThere: blackburn@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: jon@rosslug.org.uk, Blackburn Linux User Group List-Id: Blackburn Linux User Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:55:53 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:55:41 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:55:53 -0000 RossLUG meet tonight Usual time and place: 7:30pm @ The Woolpack, Haslingden http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=woolpack+inn +haslingden&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl All welcome Jon