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    Don't forget in Ubuntu gnome-shell is an easy apt-get away and there
    are also other KDE/XFCE/LXDE variants of Ubuntu for Unity haters or
    the inquisitive.<br>
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    Nick.<br>
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    On 06/02/12 14:13, Brian wrote:
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        <div><span>I am in the position of many in not liking Unity.
            Also the new HUD doesn't really appeal to me. However, have
            you seen Mint's Cinnamon desktop? From what I understand
            they are actively making it available for other distros.
            Positive remarks, re Cinnmon, have been made on various
            Linux podcasts. For me the menu is too much like Windows and
            I really don't want reminding of the bad old days. Afaik
            Ubuntu may also ship with the 'Mate' desktop which is a fork
            of Gnome 2, I might go for this. There are quite a few
            YouTube videos demonstrating Cinnamon. My favourite channel
            for these things has to be InfinitelyGalactic but he hasn't
            reviewed it yet.<br>
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        <div><span>MrMassivemanmeat: Mate Desktop:</span></div>
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        <div>Spatry (Cinnamon, but he doesn't show the menu):<br>
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        <div>gotbletu ( Cinnamon. He does show the menu but also some of
          his own configurations - so not 'out of the box')<br>
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        <div><span>Brian<br>
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                <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
                Alice Kaerast <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:alice@kaerast.info">&lt;alice@kaerast.info&gt;</a><br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                Bradlug Mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk">&lt;bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk&gt;</a>
                <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                Sunday, 5 February 2012, 19:52<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                Re: [Bradford] Debian Lenny support ends tomorrow
                (Monday)<br>
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            I'm likely to have to support a number of people who still
            haven't<br>
            upgraded from Debian Lenny yet.&nbsp; Has anybody done the
            upgrade<br>
            recently?&nbsp; How smooth was it?<br>
            <br>
            And talking of upgrades, I note that the next Ubuntu LTS is
            due for<br>
            release in April.&nbsp; Does it make sense to be upgrading to
            12.04 given<br>
            the recent talk of new features and how different it will
            look and<br>
            feel compared to 10.04?&nbsp; I've threatened to start using
            Centos on<br>
            desktops where we want long term support, but what are other
            people's<br>
            favourite desktop distros with long term support?<br>
            <br>
            -- <br>
            Mx Alice Kaerast<br>
            Devops supergirl, agile coach, corporate sysadmin<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On 5 February 2012 19:16, Dick Thomas &lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" ymailto="mailto:xpd259@gmail.com"
              href="mailto:xpd259@gmail.com">xpd259@gmail.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:<br>
            &gt; ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
            &gt; From: "Gavin Westwood (MKLUG)" &lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              ymailto="mailto:lug@gavinwestwood.co.uk"
              href="mailto:lug@gavinwestwood.co.uk">lug@gavinwestwood.co.uk</a>&gt;<br>
            &gt; Date: 5 Feb 2012 19:07<br>
            &gt; Subject: [lugmaster] Debian Lenny support ends tomorrow
            (Monday)<br>
            &gt; To: "UK LUG Masters&amp;apos; private discussion" &lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              ymailto="mailto:lugmaster@mailman.lug.org.uk"
              href="mailto:lugmaster@mailman.lug.org.uk">lugmaster@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>&gt;<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; I've been reminded by a post to another list I'm part
            of that Debian<br>
            &gt; Lenny support ends tomorrow (Monday).<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; The original post was sent back in December:<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2011/msg00238.html"
              target="_blank">http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2011/msg00238.html</a><br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; "...security support for the old release of 5.0 is
            going to end on the<br>
            &gt; 6th of February 2012...".<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; You may want to pass this on to your list, and there
            may be an increase<br>
            &gt; of people asking for help with Lenny based systems.<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; Gavin<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; --<br>
            &gt; lugmaster mailing list<br>
            &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              ymailto="mailto:lugmaster@mailman.lug.org.uk"
              href="mailto:lugmaster@mailman.lug.org.uk">lugmaster@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>
            &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/lugmaster"
              target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/lugmaster</a><br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
            &gt; Bradford mailing list<br>
            &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              ymailto="mailto:Bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk"
              href="mailto:Bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk">Bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>
            &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford"
              target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford</a><br>
            &gt;<br>
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