<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I go nearly with that. I don't think that Amazon should be in the search on the dash by default, it should be opt-in and then have the choice to separate the Amazon search from local searches - currently a music search, for example, will bring up locally stored music and Amazon. I would however, have included an Amazon icon in the menu bar and an explanation, on first boot-up, why it is there and how you can support Canonical by using it.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I don't look on Linux
distributions, like Ubuntu, as being entirely free. Those of us who have Ubuntu for personal use are providing an army of testers for Canonical. That will mean that bugs are found more quickly and this will be of use to ensure that their commercial customers are better served.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I can see your point, Dick, about going for Debian rather than a derivative. That is my thinking in regard to Ubuntu and its derivatives. So, why don't I go one step further and go for Debian? There are several reasons for this. <br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>1. If I get a problem there are just so many people in the (X/L)ubuntu community that it is easy to find a
solution. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I now find that instead of putting 'Linux' in the Google search I am more likely to get what I am looking for if I use 'Ubuntu' instead.<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>2. There is so much innovation on the Ubuntu side that, for me, makes it more exciting than Debian. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>3. Ubuntu was the first Linux distro I tried - so I have a mountain of Tomboy notes on how to fix and do things on Ubuntu. Some of these will apply to Debian but in some ways Ubuntu is not
compatible with Debian. So, I suppose I stick to what I know in the same way as RHEL users do.<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>4. Ubuntu has had a tremendous impact on the Linux world, with Canonical working hard to improve the experience of Ubuntu right from the installation phase onwards. For this reason I think they deserve my support.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Brian<br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div
style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Dick Thomas <Dick@xpd259.co.uk><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Brian <bradlug@techchico.org.uk> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> BradfordLinuxUserGroup <bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 3:58<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bradford] Ubuntu Spyware: What to do?<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv298633949">I personally think what they should of done is made the amazon/shopping lens disabled by default and allow you to enable <div>it on the installer after explaining it<br><div>and then made the shopping lens it's own entity not built into the main search</div>
<div><br></div><div>long as gnome don't do it I'm happy, I abandoned Ubuntu a while back for Debian, why use a Debian derivative when I can use debian</div><div><br></div><div>Dick</div></div><div><div><br><div class="yiv298633949gmail_quote">
On 31 December 2012 16:54, Brian <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bradlug@techchico.org.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:bradlug@techchico.org.uk">bradlug@techchico.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv298633949gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;"><div>The so-called spyware is in the Unity dash. implicit in this is that it is only in Ubuntu. I use Ubuntu but with GNOME 3 so I don't get anything like that. Personally I think that Canonical just handled the Amazon thing badly. They have been told about it and you can disable it in the settings. Currently it disables all Unity searches when you do this. I think that they should have just put an Amazon icon on the menu and left it at that. I don't blame Canonical for trying to make some money. Mark must have spent a shed-load of dosh on Ubuntu so far. Now there is a request for a donation when downloading Ubuntu. I don't blame them for trying to make some money but they handled it badly. I disagree with some of the stuff that RMS comes out with. If you saw the interview on the Linux Action Show you'd probably see what I
mean. Some of his ideas are impractical in the real world where people have to put food on the table.</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;">
<span>Brian<br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tomas Holderness <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tomasholderness@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tomasholderness@gmail.com">tomasholderness@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> David Carpenter <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:david.carpenter@nornir.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:david.carpenter@nornir.co.uk">david.carpenter@nornir.co.uk</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> bradford <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk">bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 31 December 2012, 16:42<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bradford] Ubuntu Spyware: What to do?<br> </font> </div><div><div> <br><div><div dir="ltr">Stallman makes a good case for not using Ubuntu. Further to his points, I'm also concerned about the Ubuntu-Amazon partnership given Amazon's tax avoidance here in the UK. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Am I right in thinking the Amazon search is only found in Ubuntu versions using the latest unity interface, and not derivatives such as xubuntu?</div>
<div dir="ltr">Tom.</div>
<div>On 31 Dec 2012 16:29, "David Carpenter" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:david.carpenter@nornir.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:david.carpenter@nornir.co.uk">david.carpenter@nornir.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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One of the major advantages of free software is that the community<br>
protects users from malicious software. Now Ubuntu GNU/Linux has<br>
become a counterexample. What should we do?<br>
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Cheers<br>
David<br>
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