<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><br><div dir="ltr"><div>On my main desktop I run Ubuntu 12.04.2 with GNOME 3 desktop and docky. OK, I could use Unity and just not bother using the Unity menu - but I like certain aspects of GNOME 3. I like the 'hot corner' which brings up all the windows I have open and then I do whatever I want with them. I like the idea of GNOME extensions also. </div>
<div><br></div>There is an Ubuntu Community that is good for mutual advantage in that help is at hand for people who get problems. I think Canonical has proved to be less and less Community orientated. Maybe they do listen a bit though. I remember talking to Robbie from Canonical sometime last year, before I knew who he worked for, about what I didn't like about Unity and what I did like about GNOME 3. Whilst I am not suggesting that my conversation created any change, it is representative of the opinion of some of the Community - now, I'm told, GNOME 3 is included as an option in more recent builds - not in 12.04.2. So, Canonical may have done this partially for their own ends - maybe they have put in some of their own customisation - I don't know. I use 12.04.2 and have installed GNOME 3 myself.<div>
<br></div><div>I stay with Ubuntu because most of my experience is with that Distro. I have been tempted to move to Mint but I only have that on an old laptop and I don't like a Windows-like menu - even so, I hardly use menus as I use Docky mostly. I have worked with RHEL builds, like Fedora, when compelled to, but there is a big difference in the experience in working with Fedora compared to Ubuntu. It is just so much harder to install stuff - so often things don't work for various reasons. There is an assumption, by SOME, who work with RHEL, that as RHEL is so widely used and accepted as an Enterprise server, that it follows that Fedora or CentOS must be the desktop distro to go for. I don't think those same people have taken a serious look at Ubuntu, where they would see how much headway has been made on usability by Canonical. So whatever may be said about Unity I maintain that the Ubuntu base, ignoring the choice of desktop, is far better than CentOS and Fedora. I am sure there will be people who think contrary to my view, it all comes down to personal experience and perception.</div>
<div>Is the Ubuntu Communty/Canonical relationship ideal - no it isn't. They could make an Apple type move with the licencing of some of their software, making it less attractive to people like myself. Where I would move to I don't know but it wouldn't be in the Fedora direction.</div>
<div>Even so I would prefer even Fedora to Windows any day because there are so many things I dislike about Windows and Microsoft. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I don't believe in convergence in the way Ubuntu have painted it. I think it is best to have a similar base and then have an interface that suits the platform. Many dislike Unity because it seems like a mobile interface on a desktop. I don't think that there is an interface that suits all platforms. I think that makes me to be of a similar opinion to John.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The Ubuntu mobile phone project can't totally fail in that people have pledged their money for a mobile phone. Doubtless Canonical have had this costed in China somewhere and will build it. The concept might even take off generally . The advantage being that it will be high spec and can be used as a desktop - even so, if I were to use it I wouldn't be using Unity on my desktop.</div>
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