<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Yep Rob, to add a backdoor to sysvinit you'd have to go back 40 years in your tardis *and* then work a Jedi mind trick on everyone that could see it in plain sight.<br></div><div><br>Oh yeah and I forgot:<br>
The killer colon of Lennart<br><a href="http://zaitcev.livejournal.com/219483.html">http://zaitcev.livejournal.com/219483.html</a><br></div>(Not the *anatomical* colon his ideas emerge from, no, this is a *typographical* colon.)<br>
<br></div>And Dave Airlie less than two weeks ago explaining to Linus why Linus is crazy to want kernel updates in the Fedora installer:<br>"+Linus Torvalds afaik there is no QA capacity for doing something like that, the whole reason Fedora has a serious pre-release freeze period is to make the installer not get screwed by collateral damage in the main OS, like systemd/dracut/kernel/devicemapper changes."<br>
</div><div>Yeah, so don't *do* that, genius...<br></div><div><br></div>This is just part of the fallout in our current month of October 2013.<br>Does Debian *really* want to join such a party?<br><br><div><div>-D.<br>
<br></div><div>(and I hope everyone enjoyed the lotr/starwars/who/zombies references so far. Any requests for the next rant?)<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On 29 October 2013 20:42, Robert Burrell Donkin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com" target="_blank">robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="im">On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:56 PM, David Spencer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:baildon.research@googlemail.com" target="_blank">baildon.research@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br><div>And there's this:<br><a href="http://monolight.cc/2011/05/the-systemd-fallacy/" target="_blank">http://monolight.cc/2011/05/the-systemd-fallacy/</a><br>
</div></div></div></blockquote><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">systemd is all about control<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">FWIW... <br><br>If I wanted to pwn Linux boxes, the way I go about would be through initialization scripts. <br>
<br>But shell scripts are easy to read, and sys admins have a habit of poking around in them to debug issues or to tweak them for local needs. <br><br>C (unlike more obvious alternatives like Python) is much trickier to debug or decompile. System admins will in future need to approach corporates like RH. Given friends in these corporations, if they were to insert any special goodies then likely of being found out is slim indeed. <br>
<br>Good for the NSA. Good for revenues at the corps. All Free as in Freedom Fries...<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">But who cares about being pwn'd by Uncle Sam if your box boots 1.3 seconds faster...<br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"> All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
Robert<br></div></font></span></div></div>
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