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Hi Rob,<br>
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You are seriously over reacting.<br>
<br>
On my end, I refuse and resist this type of anxiety atmosphere, and
I will do that with the opposite which is let's laugh about it.<br>
Would I want to act up on it, I do that when I vote and there are
plenty of political organisation to choose from in our democratic
governments, pick one and complain there but not only that, build a
political program, in other words, get involved in a positive
manner.<br>
<br>
I don't believe our governments want us harm and I am not paranoid
when I go to an airport.<br>
<br>
Also, you can keep your sarcasms for yourself, not interested.<br>
<br>
Now, if you don't mind, let's talk about Gnu/Linux.<br>
<br>
Stephane<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/01/16 15:52, Robert Burrell
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Stephane Urdy <span
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Nick,<br>
<br>
I agree on some points and disagree on other, I believe
the choice of technology chosen to either protect your
privacy or hide something considered today unlawful [it
might change tomorrow] is not specifically bound to the
Gnu/Linux system.<br>
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<div>I think it's out of order to make implications of
criminality on public lists<br>
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I care about the security of my release signing private
key because it's been used to sign hundreds of open source
releases installed on millions of machine and is deeply
embedded into the FOSS WOT. The security of millions of
Linux users world wide depend on people caring enough to
secure private keys like mine. I know there are Linux
system admins with keying data also of great importance to
them. I think it's important that people understand more
widely how they can take steps to secure data like this
using Linux.<br>
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Spying and espionage existed prior to the invention of
the Gnu/Linux system, in fact you can even find it in
The Holy Bible:<br>
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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Spies"
target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Spies</a><br>
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More recently,<br>
I don't recall people complaining about being arrested
or interrogated at an airport because they had a Linux
sticker on their laptop. <br>
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<div>On private lists, I've never been ridiculed or doubted
(it might have helped that a couple of senior blue chip
folks had flown back with me) <br>
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<div>BradLUGs always seem to me such an open community ready
to share ideas and experiences about technology. This is
the first time I've written in depth about this on a
public list, and after being greeted by hostility,
laughter and ridicule I can see why people don't seem to
complain in public.<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Imagine people
taking a plane going to Linux or coding conventions
ahahaha<br>
Otherwise every one with an Android phone would become
suspect !<br>
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<div>The law allows arbitrary detention at UK borders.
Anyone who is detained is by definition not a suspect.<br>
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Suspects have rights and must be either arrested or
released quickly. <br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Also, I was never
asked to start my Linux devices in an airport.<br>
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<div>Well, jolly good for you :-)<br>
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<div>People are detained at UK borders in their thousands
(according to the government). That most people don't
understand the law makes it tough to talk about.<br>
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<div>And I'll shut up about this now. I only spoke up
because people have expressed interest in the past.<br>
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<div>Robert<br>
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