<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>1st-ly sorry if I've done this mailing list thing wrong. <br></div><div>top/bottom posting, I always get confused.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I have plenty of tin foil, I'm fully stocked.<br></div><div>so I'm a non android or IOS guy.<br></div><div>In regard to the pinephone, I didn't buy one as ££ and i had bigger plans for my birthday money <br></div><div><br></div><div>but I did buy a ubports compatible phone <a target="_blank" href="https://ubports.com/devices/promoted-devices">https://ubports.com/devices/promoted-devices</a><br></div><div>and I've been using that for 3 weeks now to my wifes horror at the lack of whatsapp.<br></div><div><br></div><div>At first, it was hellish but once I got used to the lack of "apps" and that could easily make a "webapp"<br></div><div><a target="_blank" href="https://open-store.io/">https://open-store.io</a> is the app store<br></div><div>if you have any questions about it the forums are very friendly for ubports.com or I can try answer then<br></div><div><br></div><div>at some point ubports will have an android emulation type affair from what I can gather.<br></div><div>I've not tried it as the phone picked doesn't support it... yet <br></div><div><br></div><div>if you want Googleish there is <a target="_blank" href="https://e.foundation/">https://e.foundation/ </a><br></div><div>they were my "gateway OS" to fuller FOSS phone.<br></div><div>and worth checking out.<br></div><div><br></div><div data-zbluepencil-ignore="true" id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn"><div>regards<br></div><div><div><br></div><div>Dick Thomas<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div style="" data-zbluepencil-ignore="true" class="zmail_extra"><div><br></div><div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn1">---- On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 18:20:19 +0100 <b>Nick Rhodes via Bradford <bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk></b> wrote ----<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 6px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 5px; --darkreader-inline-border-left:#3e4446;" data-darkreader-inline-border-left=""><div>Hi<br><br>Edward Snowden recommends GrapheneOS - <a href="https://grapheneos.org" target="_blank">https://grapheneos.org</a> , it <br>appears to be well supported by Google Pixel phones, you will need to be <br>able to perform the flashing of a firmware to install GrapheneOS.<br><br>For those who possess more tin foil, one should worry about the trust of <br>the hardware and consider a far more FOSS hardware, I think the <br>Pinephone - <a href="https://www.pine64.org/pinephone" target="_blank">https://www.pine64.org/pinephone</a> is the only current <br>example, the hardware seems pretty good, but not being Android based has <br>much more limited in terms of applications available.<br><br>Cheers, Nick<br><br>On 29/09/2020 17:54, Moanin via Bradford wrote:<br>> Hi Folks,<br>><br>> I lost my mobile phone today. As it's almost as old and knackered as <br>> me I don't feel it's such a great loss apart from contacts and a small <br>> number of other details. I've been chuntering on about buying a new <br>> one for some time, so this gives me the impetus even if the old one <br>> turns up again.<br>><br>> What I'm looking for now is a recommendation for a replacement. Not a <br>> lot of the Google, even less of the Apple, just a little bit of the <br>> Open Source and a lot of freedom from being spied upon.<br>><br>> If there is such a thing as a spy free phone in our "democratic" (sic) <br>> society, an idea of where to buy it would be helpful, too.<br>><br>> Huawei look tempting, with their EMUI OS which appears to tick some of <br>> my boxes. Does anybody know much about them? I know John Hudson had an <br>> older model last time the topic came up in conversation but that was a <br>> while ago. Any updates, John?<br>><br>> Apart for an eyewatering price for the cheapest lurching skywards from <br>> model to model, is there much practical difference between the Huawei <br>> p40, p40 Pro and P40 Pro+?<br>><br>> The Mate Xs is a bit two grand for me.<br>><br>> All ideas fitting the above description, including but not restricted <br>> to Huawei, accepted and absorbed without hesitation.<br>><br>> TIA,<br>><br>> Mike<br>><br>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>> "Moanin" is a track wrtitten by Charles Mingus, first public recording <br>> was on his album "Blues and Roots", 1959.<br>><br><br>-- <br>Bradford mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">Bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford</a></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><br></body></html>