<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><head><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--></head><body><div class="yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Myself, David & Bernie are already on a federated server, mine for example, is Fosstodon. Why not just join one of the existing servers? Running a federated server of your own is demanding.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">You could take a look at <a href="https://fosstodon.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_9020619759">Fosstodon</a>, <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/explore" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_8541597376">Linux.Pizza</a> or <a href="https://mastodon.social/explore" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_8716103716">Mastodon</a> for example.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Brian<br></div><div><br></div><div id="ydp40ead521enhancr_card_8716103716" class="ydp40ead521yahoo-link-enhancr-card ydp40ead521ymail-preserve-class ydp40ead521ymail-preserve-style" style="max-width:400px;font-family:YahooSans, "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" data-url="https://mastodon.social/explore" data-type="YENHANCER" data-size="MEDIUM" contenteditable="false"><a href="https://mastodon.social/explore" style="text-decoration-line: none !important; text-decoration-style: solid !important; text-decoration-color: currentcolor !important; color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important;" class="ydp40ead521yahoo-enhancr-cardlink" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table class="ydp40ead521card-wrapper ydp40ead521yahoo-ignore-table" style="max-width:400px" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table class="ydp40ead521card ydp40ead521yahoo-ignore-table" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224, 228, 233);border-radius:2px" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="ydp40ead521card-primary-image-cell" style="background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-repeat: no-repeat; background-size: cover; position: relative; border-radius: 2px 2px 0px 0px; min-height: 175px;" valign="top" height="175" bgcolor="#000000" background="https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/sHAd4uEv7WucIQ5vNsvPAw--~A/Zmk9ZmlsbDt3PTQwMDtoPTIwMDthcHBpZD1pZXh0cmFjdA--/https://files.mastodon.social/site_uploads/files/000/000/001/@1x/57c12f441d083cde.png.cf.jpg"><!--[if gte mso 9]><v:rect fill="true" stroke="false" style="width:396px;height:175px;position:absolute;top:0;left:0;"><v:fill type="frame" color="#000000" src="https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/sHAd4uEv7WucIQ5vNsvPAw--~A/Zmk9ZmlsbDt3PTQwMDtoPTIwMDthcHBpZD1pZXh0cmFjdA--/https://files.mastodon.social/site_uploads/files/000/000/001/@1x/57c12f441d083cde.png.cf.jpg"/></v:rect><![endif]--><table class="ydp40ead521card-overlay-container-table ydp40ead521yahoo-ignore-table" style="width:100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="ydp40ead521card-overlay-cell" style="background-color: transparent; border-radius: 2px 2px 0px 0px; min-height: 175px;" valign="top" bgcolor="transparent" background="https://s.yimg.com/cv/ae/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV21/1/enhancr_gradient-400x175.png"><!--[if gte mso 9]><v:rect fill="true" stroke="false" style="width:396px;height:175px;position:absolute;top:-18px;left:0;"><v:fill type="pattern" color="#000000" src="https://s.yimg.com/cv/ae/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV21/1/enhancr_gradient-400x175.png"/><v:textbox inset="0,0,20px,0"><![endif]--><table class="ydp40ead521yahoo-ignore-table" style="width: 100%; min-height: 175px;" height="175" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="ydp40ead521card-richInfo2" style="text-align:left;padding:15px 0 0 15px;vertical-align:top"></td><td class="ydp40ead521card-actions" style="text-align:right;padding:15px 15px 0 0;vertical-align:top"><div class="ydp40ead521card-share-container"></div></td></tr></tbody></table><!--[if gte mso 9]></v:textbox></v:rect><![endif]--></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td><table class="ydp40ead521card-info ydp40ead521yahoo-ignore-table" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-size: auto; position: relative; z-index: 2; width: 100%; max-width: 400px; border-radius: 0px 0px 2px 2px; border-top: 1px solid rgb(224, 228, 233);" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color:#ffffff;padding:16px 0 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0 0 0 2px"></td><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:YahooSans, "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;border-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                    On Thursday, 29 June 2023 at 15:29:24 BST, Darren Drapkin via Bradford <bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
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                <div><div dir="ltr">As I understand Lemmy, Mastodon, and a few others are part of a network called <br clear="none">the Fediverse. It includes a kind of network I tried some years ago, called <br clear="none">disapora. <br clear="none">Perhaps, we could run a session, in the near future. We install a fediverse <br clear="none">server of some kind, on suitable hardware. We announce it to the computer <br clear="none">press before hand?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Friday, 23 June 2023 12:08:54 BST Nick Rhodes via Bradford wrote:<br clear="none">> One thought I have had is LUGs feel rather isolated in the current internet,<br clear="none">> nowadays people gravitate to social media platforms for discussions and to<br clear="none">> get information, they are easy to locate and easy to search. I have a<br clear="none">> feeling most new-ish Linux users don't even know what a mailing list is<br clear="none">> (alone IRC or newsgroups) and think blogs and forums are for old people.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> If there is an aim to attract more members, then we need to think about<br clear="none">> investigating utilising more modern platforms to host discussions, discord<br clear="none">> has been mentioned, but I think it's worth exploring a presence on Lemmy<br clear="none">> and Mastodon. These are federated Reddit and Twitter alternatives that<br clear="none">> embrace open ethos. There are more options to explore, but most are<br clear="none">> closed-off, is choosing closed platforms a fair trade for better exposure ?<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> I've not had much thought about in-person meetings, I am very out of the<br clear="none">> loop with what the current fashion is, or what the location options are,<br clear="none">> but my personal situation has improved, so I will be able attend more<br clear="none">> regularly and in person.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> One final note - I personally like the Blog as a place to keep record of<br clear="none">> discussions of meetings.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Cheers, Nick<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> > On 22/06/2023 14:11 BST John Robert Hudson via Bradford<br clear="none">> > <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> > Hi Brian<br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> > BradLUG has always been an umbrella organisation for people wanting to<br clear="none">> > share experiences - we have had social events, outings and for many years<br clear="none">> > IT Stuff.<br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> > There is nothing to stop anyone from starting a Meetup or similar - other<br clear="none">> > than their willingness to maintain it. Perhaps this would attract members<br clear="none">> > who are not attracted to the current meetings. There have always been<br clear="none">> > people who would get involved in activities other than our regular<br clear="none">> > meetings.<br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> > John<br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> > On Wednesday, 21 June 2023 21:11:50 BST bradlug--- via Bradford wrote:<br clear="none">> > > There was some talkat the last meeting about attendance and also on-line<br clear="none">> > > meetings.<br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > Here is my view onthis matter. I definitely do not like that meeting<br clear="none">> > > room in BCB. Youmay have noticed that whenever I have attended, in<br clear="none">> > > person, that Ihave propped open the door to allow some air in. This<br clear="none">> > > time the roomstank of sweaty bodies, it had obviously been occupied<br clear="none">> > > earlier andthe stink had not moved out due to the terrible lack of<br clear="none">> > > ventilation.<br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > If we want to havemore participants then we need to use one of the<br clear="none">> > > establishedplatforms. 'Meetup' is an obvious one and 'Discord' for<br clear="none">> > > on-linemeetings. However 'Element' might be a better choice from the<br clear="none">> > > FOSSviewpoint.<br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > I think that themeetings should all be on-line but interspersed with<br clear="none">> > > social<br clear="none">> > > meetingsat the pub.<br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > As examples: ‘PCPro’ do their podcast live on Discord. ‘Malaga Mobile’<br clear="none">> > > and‘Barcamp Manchester’ also use Discord. ‘IoT North’ use Meetupfor<br clear="none">> > > general<br clear="none">> > > contact but ‘Youtube’ live video, together with useof text for questions<br clear="none">> > > to<br clear="none">> > > presenters.<br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > However, if there isa formal move to go on-line AND to get more<br clear="none">> > > participants then we allneed to make a special effort to make sure that<br clear="none">> > > all our AV is workingcorrectly in advance of the meetings.<br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > Comments and viewsplease.<br clear="none">> > > Refs:<br clear="none">> > > WordPress Leeds Online - Monthly Meetup, Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 5:30 PM |<br clear="none">> > > Meetup<br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > WordPress Leeds Online - Monthly Meetup, Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 5:30 PM |<br clear="none">> > > ...<br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > Our monthly meetup for WordPress users, bloggers and developers. The<br clear="none">> > > meetup<br clear="none">> > > has been running online since March ...<br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > IoT North - Leeds (Leeds, United Kingdom)<br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > <br clear="none">> > > Brian<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">Yours &c<br clear="none">Darren Drapkin<div class="ydp1d226680yqt4669293257" id="ydp1d226680yqtfd82287"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">Bradford mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bradford@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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