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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Firstly, I think we have to rule out 'self hosted' as we tried that at the very beginning and found it to be of poor performance, that is why we switched to the public Jitsi. I've just looked at Signal and Calyx. Jitsi hasn't been without its problems so I hoped that Signal would be a better choice. I installed the Linux desktop version, I already had it installed on my Android OS phone. It installed OK but then it displayed a QR code to be scanned by a mobile app. Once done it tried to download all my contacts. I didn't like that as I feel that it should have asked me first. However, I must have already blocked it on the phone so it didn't do any transfer of contacts. It seems to be intrusive in that everyone will have to be on my contact list for this to work.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Then I tried Calyx. Not much to say really, it's a Jitsi clone. <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">In addition, I easily found a list of web sites that use Jitsi, though there are others, <a href="https://trends.builtwith.com/media/Jitsi/United-Kingdom" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_4858964637">Websites using Jitsi in the United Kingdom</a></div><div><br></div><div id="ydp61a9997denhancr_card_4858964637" class="ydp61a9997dyahoo-link-enhancr-card ydp61a9997dyahoo-link-enhancr-not-allow-cover ydp61a9997dymail-preserve-class ydp61a9997dymail-preserve-style" style="max-width: 400px; font-family: YahooSans VF, YahooSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; position: relative;" data-url="https://trends.builtwith.com/media/Jitsi/United-Kingdom" data-type="YENHANCER" data-size="MEDIUM" contenteditable="false"><a href="https://trends.builtwith.com/media/Jitsi/United-Kingdom" style="text-decoration-line: none !important; text-decoration-style: solid !important; text-decoration-color: currentcolor !important; color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important;" class="ydp61a9997dyahoo-enhancr-cardlink" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table border="0" class="ydp61a9997dcard-wrapper ydp61a9997dyahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table border="0" class="ydp61a9997dcard ydp61a9997dyahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224, 228, 233);border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td><table border="0" class="ydp61a9997dcard-info ydp61a9997dyahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-size: auto; position: relative; z-index: 2; width: 100%; max-width: 400px; border-radius: 0px 0px 2px 2px; border-top: 1px solid rgb(224, 228, 233);"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color:#ffffff;padding:16px 0 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0 0 0 2px"></td><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:YahooSans VF, YahooSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;border-radius:0 0 2px 0"><h2 class="ydp61a9997dcard-title" style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 19px; margin: 0px 0px 6px; font-family: YahooSans VF, YahooSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(29, 34, 40); max-width: 314px;">Websites using Jitsi in the United Kingdom</h2><p class="ydp61a9997dcard-description" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; margin: 0px; color: rgb(151, 158, 168);">Download a list of all websites using Jitsi in the United Kingdom</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a><div class="loadingSpinnerContainer" style="position: absolute; top: 0px; width: 100%; height: 100%; display: flex; align-items: center; justify-content: center; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.3);"><div class="D_F F_n gl_C ab_C H_6MGW o_h"><div class="W_6MGW H_6MGW D_X ah_1PEzoz" data-test-id="loading_indicator"><svg class="W_6MGW H_6MGW ah_Zq6hUs" viewBox="0 0 24 24" width="24" height="24"><path class="cdPFi_n cZ13pKbK_Z29WjXl cZ1XO2Ji_dRA c2abBOT_EY cZ1vNhDV_rd cZV8aCd_pI ah_14s73" d="M12,22C6.477,22,2,17.523,2,12S6.477,2,12,2"></path><path class="cdPFi_n cZ13pKbK_Z29WjXl cZ1XO2Ji_dRA c2abBOT_EY cZ1vNhDV_rd cZV8aCd_pI ah_14s73" d="M12,2c5.523,0,10,4.477,10,10s-4.477,10-10,10"></path></svg></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">So, I tried<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://vc.greennet.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://vc.greennet.org.uk</a> <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">That one didn't even have the 'Join the meeting' button, it just went straight in to a clone Jitsi.<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">A list of possible servers gives us the possibility of moving servers if one is found to be of low performance.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I haven't tried any other options. Of course we could go commercial and go for Discord. It would have the advantage of possibly attracting others and is likely to perform well as a server.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Some years ago I took a look at <a href="http://bigbluebutton.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://bigbluebutton.org/</a> I've just signed up for it again and ventured to the 'Demo' - I think that is probably the public server, it can be self hosted, it is Open Source. If it is possible to use the 'Demo' version then I think this is definitely worth a try. This site is geared up for school use so could offer some good facilities. Maybe someone would like to try it out with me?<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Brian <br></div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 21:49:31 BST, John Robert Hudson <j.r.hudson@virginmedia.com> wrote:
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<br clear="none"><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Well spotted Brian. What do others think? Try Calyx meet? Try Signal? Try setting up our own Jitsi instance?</p>
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<br clear="none"><div id="ydp93ad538dyiv1627725974yqtfd40815" class="ydp93ad538dyiv1627725974yqt0357351966"><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:11:50 BST bradlug--- via Bradford wrote:</p>
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