Funny thing is Evan actually used to work for Microsoft years ago before becoming involved with the FSF and completely changing paths, a fact he only admitted to me after we'd finished recording the interview. I think he was worried I might attack him if it came out on air hehehe :)<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Stuart Burns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stuart.james.burns@gmail.com">stuart.james.burns@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I did try without the tick in the box, but it was a no go. Almost as bad as MS ;) JK<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/2/7 Dan Lynch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:biglynchy@gmail.com" target="_blank">biglynchy@gmail.com</a>></span><div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Yes I totally agree it should be the users choice. It's strange because being licensed under the AGPL Identica is one of the few truly free web services around. I know Evan the creator is very keen on not locking users in, you still own all data and not the website, if you leave yo have the right to take all data with you. I wonder what the terms are on Twitter? More restrictive I bet, I'll have to look.<br>
<br>We interviewed Evan for the podcast a while back so I might email him and ask him about this. I always thought CC license was optional. Obviously I was wrong<br><br>Uggh<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Stuart Burns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stuart.james.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">stuart.james.burns@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I did try but unfortunately if u dont accept, you cant have an<br>
account. Not that i have much i wouldnt want to me, just the principle<br>
really.<br>
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On 2/7/09, Les Pritchard <<a href="mailto:les.pritchard@gmail.com" target="_blank">les.pritchard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> That's a good point Dan, I think most people don't realise that Facebook own<br>
> all the photos they've posted of themselves drunk at various pubs!<br>
><br>
> It's a good discussion though, many people don't even think about what<br>
> they're clicking when they agree to licenses. Would be interesting to see<br>
> if you are able to sign up without agreeing to that Stuart.<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Dan Lynch <<a href="mailto:biglynchy@gmail.com" target="_blank">biglynchy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Yes that's a good point, I license almost everything I do under Creative<br>
>> Commons because I believe strongly in it but I can see why it would make<br>
>> others feel uncomfortable and it's a completely personal decision. I<br>
>> always<br>
>> thought you could sign up and just leave that box unticked, does it not<br>
>> let<br>
>> you sign up without a CC license? I've never tried you see. I assumed that<br>
>> was optional :S<br>
>><br>
>> The CC-SA license is quite liberal, I usually use CC-BY-SA and sometimes<br>
>> the non commercial clause too. If we're just posting little updates about<br>
>> meetings in Chester and so on thought I don't see how anyone else could<br>
>> really make use of them in a damaging way. We want to spread that<br>
>> information. Most services state in their terms and conditions that<br>
>> anything<br>
>> you post is owned equally then by the operator of the website, like<br>
>> Facebook. If you post any photos on Facebook they then own them, there was<br>
>> a<br>
>> big controversy about that last year. I find that far more worrying than<br>
>> CC.<br>
>><br>
>> As I said though I totally respect that some people won't feel comfortable<br>
>> posting under CC, that's why I thought it was optional. If it isn't<br>
>> optional<br>
>> then I can understand why you might not want to sign up :)<br>
>><br>
>> Dan<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Burns <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:stuart.james.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">stuart.james.burns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi Everyone.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Here is a problem. If you go with <a href="http://identi.ca" target="_blank">identi.ca</a> you are obliged to sign up<br>
>>> under the Creative Commons licence, so all your comments etc are free for<br>
>>> others to use. I think that personally sounds dangerous. Do you really<br>
>>> want<br>
>>> people to be able to use all your comments for all manner of purposes ?<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="http://identi.ca/main/register" target="_blank">http://identi.ca/main/register</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 2009/2/6 David Holden <<a href="mailto:dh@iucr.org" target="_blank">dh@iucr.org</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote:<br>
>>>> > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've<br>
>>>> > said<br>
>>>> a<br>
>>>> > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or<br>
>>>> offputting<br>
>>>> > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on places<br>
>>>> like<br>
>>>> > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been much<br>
>>>> > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less<br>
>>>> confident<br>
>>>> > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to<br>
>>>> follow<br>
>>>> > things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Fair do's, the more newbies the merier.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dave.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Dr. David Holden.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> See: <<a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html" target="_blank">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html</a>><br>
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