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Nothing surprises me these days.<br>
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On 13/07/11 16:29, Les Pritchard wrote:
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type="cite">You've hit the nail on the head there security vs
convenience. I have been to so many companies who use WEP because they
know it will work with all devices. They also use a simple key as
something longer is just harder to type :-)<br>
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I've also spoken to home users who use WEP, or nothing at all as
they've had problems connecting consoles to WPA2. Very scary.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 13 July 2011 16:24, Michael Crilly <span
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I
believe WPA is backwards compatible with WEP enabled hardware (but not
WPA2 as the chipsets can't do the processing). WPA is an improvement
over WEP as it uses better encryption, it doesn't directly use master
keys and it's IV has been increased to 48, from 24, and as such you
have trillions of key combinations, instead of about 17 million. WPA2
requires completely new hardware.<br>
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I think ISPs should be taking on the responsibility of ensuring
people's security, as far as wireless technology at home goes, anyway.
This can be done by shipping wireless routers with only WPA2 enabled,
minimum key requirements and a decent password policy on the router's
administration panel, etc. That being said it can't be too easy as you
end up sacrificing security for convenience, which is never good.
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On 13/07/11 16:15, Bryn Salisbury wrote:<br>
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The question for me is whether or not older units in circulation have
been updated to support WPA2. I know that there are still a load of 1st
generation BT Home Hubs out there which still work on WEP, and the
other question is how often people update their wifi passwords (I bet
most provider-issued devices are still set to their factory WEP/WPA2
keys).<br>
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Buzz Out Loud did a long segment about Wifi routers a few weeks ago,
and my recent (painful) experience trying to reconfigure my own HomeHub
made me wonder how many 'normal' people actually look (or even know
they should look) at such things?<br>
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B<br>
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On 13 Jul 2011, at 16:10, Michael Crilly wrote:<br>
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Mind you most residential gateways come with WPA2 as standard now (the
article was a few years back), so hopefully this will not be as easy to
do.<br>
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On 13/07/11 16:08, Les Pritchard wrote:<br>
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Yes that's a great story, there's a lot of this going on sadly. If
you've upset anyone - don't use WiFi :-)<br>
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On 13 July 2011 15:23, Michael Crilly<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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I've just started reading this on Arstechnica: <a
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- quite scary! It just goes to show you what you can do with some tools
off of the Internet and some basic knowledge.<br>
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This could be a story for your company's website, Les ;-)<br>
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