A while back, when I still had a profile, Facebook changed the look and feel of their UI. Everyone (on my friends list) went mental and kept complaining about it until someone posted a picture basically saying, "I am outraged and annoyed that a free service I am in no way obligated to use has changed the way it operates in a manner that doesn't inconvenience me in the slightest" (or something to that effect). Good point. This is the price of a "free" service - things happen their way - and, ultimately, these people start looking at how they can make money from what they have: your data. Google's infrastructure must be insane. They have to cover those costs somehow, right? Anyway...<br>
<br>Stuart, I setup a Postfix/Dovecot server the other week. It was pretty painless to be honest, but the issue comes from battling anti-spam (which I have yet to implement). It's also not using virtual domains or users because I hate the thought of running a relational database just for that (what a waste of resources). I'm going to rip it down soon unless you think it's worth keeping and building up? I'm happy to share access. I was also thinking of pulling down the SMTP side of it and using something else like MX Logic to outsource the relaying aspect. For $2/month per mailbox you get triple virus scans and mental anti-spam filtering.<br>
<br>Also: "Thing is, gmail and it's interface and integration are good. The two factor authentication is the icing on the cake." I have my own form of two-factor authentication: a password I type, and the 38 characters my YubiKey types. Pushing 50+ char passwords puts my Haystack calculations into the trillions of centuries :P<br>
<br>I really like Google and their services. Sure they've been in the news a few times for some pretty dodgy stuff, but I think that boils down to the human element: people are stupid and do silly things from time to time.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 January 2012 21:49, John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:veedub@linuxmail.org">veedub@linuxmail.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Soory could not get there..working on a computer..what a surprise.<br>
Dual booting linux!<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
john</font></span><div class="im HOEnZb"><br>
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On 26/01/12 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote:<br>
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Interesting stuff, the whole search engine world seemed to go very<br>
quiet for a while - like everyone had given up and let Google get on<br>
with it.<br>
<br>
The trouble with all of these is scaling and that's where Google got<br>
it bang on. They've now got to such a size that all these other sites<br>
feel so slow - even if we're just talking seconds!<br>
<br>
It's really good to have some more competition in this area though and<br>
I'll have a good play. I do find it funny that this slightly<br>
anti-Google conversation has included three Gmail users, I'm sure<br>
they're watching us :-p<br>
<br>
Les<br>
<br>
On 26 January 2012 14:27, Ben Arnold<<a href="mailto:BenArnold@fsfe.org" target="_blank">BenArnold@fsfe.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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Highly recommended, I've had it as my default for months as the search box<br>
in my Opera no longer has a Google entry :)<br>
<br>
I believe this is (to become) the default in Linux Mint n+1, probably just<br>
Firefox but I imagine they could do it for all the browsers they package.<br>
The bang search terms are ridiculously useful, "!github<search>" etc.,<br>
though "!google<search terms>" not so much...<br>
<br>
<br>
I've also come across Seeks, <a href="http://www.seeks-project.info/" target="_blank">http://www.seeks-project.info/</a> and search with<br>
thier instance <a href="https://www.seeks-project.info/search.php" target="_blank">https://www.seeks-project.<u></u>info/search.php</a>, which I think<br>
that, as a decentralised service, aims to group users that search for<br>
similar terms so they can provide useful results for that group. Sort of<br>
like voting up, but not for individual searches. Yes, I'm still confused.<br>
<br>
<br>
Until later,<br>
Ben<br>
<br>
<br>
On 26 January 2012 12:52, Stuart Burns<<a href="mailto:stuart.james.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">stuart.james.burns@<u></u>gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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I found out about a new search engine and have been using it for a week or<br>
so. Google like it used to be, without annoying ads, tracking, and asking do<br>
I want to upload to + etc. It also, most importantly has good privacy, and<br>
all sorts of customisable options, to include fully secure search, no search<br>
term passing etc.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.duckduckgo.com" target="_blank">www.duckduckgo.com</a><br>
<br>
It's clean, it's simple, it's relevant and quick.<br>
<br>
Also it has some geeky toys <a href="http://duckduckgo.com/goodies.html" target="_blank">http://duckduckgo.com/goodies.<u></u>html</a><br>
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