<div dir="ltr">That's a really good point! Maybe they could offer a feed that only shows their 'friends' looking rough instead of the highly posed selfies!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 April 2015 at 13:12, animation animation <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:animation1138@gmail.com" target="_blank">animation1138@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I have seen an article online linking heavy Facebook use to depression. Facebook envy. People exaggerating how good their lives our makes onlookers depressed about their own life.<br>
Perhaps mildly bad news on fb will cheer people up.<br>
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1. facebook (Robin Hemuss)<br>
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3. Re: facebook (David Holden)<br>
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:48:58 +0100<br>
From: Robin Hemuss <<a href="mailto:robin592@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robin592@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:chester@mailman.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">chester@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: [Chester LUG] facebook<br>
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Hello people,<br>
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I don't know if this is old news for everyone else. The article's a few months<br>
old, but still interesting I think.<br>
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<a href="http://www.nature.com/news/misjudgements-will-drive-social-trials-underground-1.15553?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews" target="_blank">http://www.nature.com/news/misjudgements-will-drive-social-trials-underground-1.15553?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews</a><br>
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It seems that facebook spent some time feeding people disproportionately<br>
good/bad news in their updates, and monitored if they behaved happy/sad as a<br>
result. Apparently this is ethical because it's pretty much what they<br>
normally do anyway, and also it's not that much different from regular<br>
advertising. Sounds a bit iffy to me though.<br>
<br>
I just wondered what the general opinion over this kind of stuff is. How can<br>
you keep your facebook activity secret from facebook?<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Robin<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:53:06 +0100<br>
From: Les Pritchard <<a href="mailto:les.pritchard@gmail.com" target="_blank">les.pritchard@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: chester <<a href="mailto:chester@mailman.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">chester@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] facebook<br>
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Yes, it was an interesting 'experiment' but the ethical side is really<br>
questionable. I'm sure their view is that it is their network and you agree<br>
to this stuff in the T & C. Facebook certainly does decide what you see,<br>
but you are able to change that if you 'train' your account. In terms of<br>
stopping Facebook from watching you, well on Facebook you're obviously<br>
screwed! To avoid tracking on other sites you'd need to remove all the<br>
cookies so the like buttons couldn't track your visits. You could run you<br>
browser in the private mode and restart it after using Facebook, which<br>
would reduce the tracking ability. Alternatively, use one browser to access<br>
Facebook and then another for every other site. This would mean Facebook<br>
could only see what they already know.<br>
<br>
There are plenty of other steps you can take, but those are the simple ones<br>
that spring to mind.<br>
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On 20 April 2015 at 15:48, Robin Hemuss <<a href="mailto:robin592@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robin592@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hello people,<br>
><br>
> I don't know if this is old news for everyone else. The article's a few<br>
> months<br>
> old, but still interesting I think.<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.nature.com/news/misjudgements-will-drive-social-trials-underground-1.15553?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews" target="_blank">http://www.nature.com/news/misjudgements-will-drive-social-trials-underground-1.15553?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews</a><br>
><br>
> It seems that facebook spent some time feeding people disproportionately<br>
> good/bad news in their updates, and monitored if they behaved happy/sad as<br>
> a<br>
> result. Apparently this is ethical because it's pretty much what they<br>
> normally do anyway, and also it's not that much different from regular<br>
> advertising. Sounds a bit iffy to me though.<br>
><br>
> I just wondered what the general opinion over this kind of stuff is. How<br>
> can<br>
> you keep your facebook activity secret from facebook?<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Robin<br>
><br>
><br>
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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:25:35 +0100<br>
From: David Holden <<a href="mailto:dh@iucr.org" target="_blank">dh@iucr.org</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:chester@mailman.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">chester@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>
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It's a disgraceful exercise IMO. I wonder how many of those experimented<br>
on were suffering from depression? A "tap tap tap" in the wrong<br>
direction could lead to devastating consequences if so.<br>
<br>
But then it's par for the course with unthinking globocorps like<br>
FaceBook and Google.<br>
<br>
I'm pretty sure I read that Google's identity "merging" around Google+<br>
lead to people being outed when they were not ready or wanting to be.<br>
<br>
We're witnessing a step change reduction in privacy made all the more<br>
troubling by the internet's pretty permanent memory and governments need<br>
to surveil.<br>
<br>
Ultimately I suspect we're all going to have to become both a lot more<br>
forgiving of other peoples private peccadilloes or a lot more shameless<br>
ourselves.<br>
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Dave.<br>
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On 20/04/15 15:48, Robin Hemuss wrote:<br>
> Hello people,<br>
><br>
> I don't know if this is old news for everyone else. The article's a few months<br>
> old, but still interesting I think.<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.nature.com/news/misjudgements-will-drive-social-trials-underground-1.15553?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews" target="_blank">http://www.nature.com/news/misjudgements-will-drive-social-trials-underground-1.15553?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews</a><br>
><br>
> It seems that facebook spent some time feeding people disproportionately<br>
> good/bad news in their updates, and monitored if they behaved happy/sad as a<br>
> result. Apparently this is ethical because it's pretty much what they<br>
> normally do anyway, and also it's not that much different from regular<br>
> advertising. Sounds a bit iffy to me though.<br>
><br>
> I just wondered what the general opinion over this kind of stuff is. How can<br>
> you keep your facebook activity secret from facebook?<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Robin<br>
><br>
><br>
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