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    <tt>Thanks Tony.  I can, and have, changed both the name and
      password.  However, what one never knows is whether the manufacturers
      have a 'back door' they can use to give 'help and on-line service'
      when you have screwed up the software.  But then this applies to
      anything you buy.</tt><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/02/17 22:58, Tony TF via Chester
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        <div>Hi Roger<br>
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        Did you notice that recent DDoS attacks used IP cameras in a
        botnet! Mainly those with internals from wholesale supplier
        XiongMai Technologies. End products from ZTE, Panasonic, Axis,
        Toshiba, Samsung and more (UCam not mentioned). The cameras were
        hacked using telnet or SSH using default (and unchangeable)
        passwords.<br>
        Apparently UPnP in a router can also be a security risk.<br>
        I only mention this because your statement <tt>"</tt><tt><tt>unique
            IP address, which </tt>I can access via password from
          anywhere on the web"</tt> sort of leaves a lot of unanswered
        security questions!<br>
        <br>
        Tony<br>
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        Reference:<br>
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href="https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/hacked-cameras-dvrs-powered-todays-massive-internet-outage/">https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/hacked-cameras-dvrs-powered-todays-massive-internet-outage/</a><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Roger
          Gibson via Chester <span dir="ltr"><<a
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks
            Robin.  Just to be clear, the camera (Ucam 247) comes with
            fairly comprehensive software and does everything I want,
            except that, continuous and snapshot images can only be
            stored either on an SD card in the camera, or by Wifi to an
            NAS device connected to my router.  Hence my queries about
            setting up an NAS device using an old laptop.  The short
            comings of the SD card are are that it could be
            damaged/stolen with the camera, and it has limited capacity,
            about three weeks of continuous recording before it starts
            overwriting the oldest files.<br>
            <br>
            There is a third option I could explore, in that a
            continuous feed can be independently and continuously viewed
            in a browser, so this feed could be intercepted.  I'm not
            sure about the quality of this feed.<br>
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            And also to be clear, nothing goes out over the internet,
            unless I log in to the camera from holiday etc to look see.<br>
            <br>
            Anyway, many thanks to all who have sent helpful replies.  I
            am at present exploring using Samba to set up an NAS device,
            but also looking at dedicated NAS programs as well.<br>
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            Thanks again - Roger.
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                On 08/02/17 23:01, Robin via Chester wrote:<br>
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                  Well I know pretty much sod-all about NAS, so I doubt
                  this will be much help, but all the same...<br>
                  <br>
                  Are you trying to configure your laptop to act as a
                  router, so you can then turn the plusnet thing off,
                  and have your security cameras connect to your laptop
                  instead? I take it your laptop could then (sneakily?)
                  record the camera feed before it gets sent wherever it
                  gets sent to on the Internet.<br>
                  <br>
                  Failing that, what about a script that reacts to the
                  motion-trigger email, logs into the camera using it's
                  IP address, and downloads the last hour of footage? I
                  think there are some command line tools that can do
                  that kind of thing. I can't honestly say I know
                  offhand how to use them though.<br>
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                  Regards,<br>
                  Robin<br>
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                  On Wednesday 08 February 2017 19:48:19 Tony TF via
                  Chester wrote:<br>
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                    As I've seen no other comments here I thought I
                    might wade in with one or<br>
                    two basics about a NAS for your security cameras.<br>
                    <br>
                    A NAS Attaches some Storage to a Network or more
                    descriptively shares<br>
                    regions of a storage device on the network. On Linux
                    this is usually done<br>
                    by the Samba software which provides the Microsoft
                    SMB interface to share<br>
                    disk partitions or directories. Have a look at
                    Samba. If you install it on<br>
                    your laptop and share your USB drive you should have
                    a usable NAS.<br>
                    <br>
                    I personally am wary of sharing things over the
                    Internet (like your camera<br>
                    stream) It probably has to go via some proprietory
                    server associated with<br>
                    the camera manufacturer. Your configurations to keep
                    this secure are a<br>
                    whole order of magnitude more complicated than a
                    basic LAN.<br>
                    <br>
                    There are others in the lug far more competent than
                    me. They might feel<br>
                    that your level of expertise means you have a lot to
                    learn to get where you<br>
                    want to be, or maybe they're just too busy. Have a
                    look at Samba but bear<br>
                    in mind that you have to keep everything secure. You
                    might be better off<br>
                    installing a ready made NAS distro<br>
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                    Have fun<br>
                    Tony<br>
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