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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/03/2013 20:38, Russell Briggs
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<p>Hehe. Yes lets just agree sage is horrible but unfortunately is
widely used and most companies are reluctant to replace it with
any open source solutions :(</p>
<p>As Ian says, hosting sage files on linux is not supported, and
theres no real need since most customers that insist on running
Sage have a suitable windows machine to host it on.</p>
<p>We've written an integration service in C# (using SharpDevelop
rather than Visual Studio I hasten to add!) that runs on the
windows sage "server" and exposes functions from the sage API as
JSON web services.</p>
<p>We then call these services from python on our linux server to
read and write sage data. Seems to work well for us.</p>
<p>Russ</p>
<p>PS - Python is awesome :)</p>
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Well I insist that I install Linux servers which tends to mean that
I host Sage on Linux. It works OK but I don't know if it can be
tuned to work better than Windows but I think it can due to the
SAMBA conf file.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 5, 2013 8:02 PM, "Ian Snow" <<a
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<p
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Wayland</p>
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<p
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hope this doesn't turn into a Sage support thread
especially with a starting subject of Hello!</p>
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<p
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Sage 50, oh the big pile of crap that it is.</p>
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<p
style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">Switching
to Samba won't necessarily fix your issues and I'll
explain why, Sage 50 uses DTA files for its "database"
which each user's computer will read, lock to make
changes, write the changes and then save and the bigger
the DTA fiiles get the longer that takes</p>
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<p
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that to say a mysql server using myisam based tables, its
only the server that locks the files not each client</p>
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<p
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thing that will help with Sage 50 performance is to make
sure that the AV product isn't scanning the directory
where the Sage data is stored, that definitely makes it
slow</p>
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On 04/03/2013 20:56, Ian Snow wrote:</p>
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> Evening Russ</p>
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> I too am lucky enough to get to play with Linux at
work, as I admin Linux</p>
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> database, web, dns and mail servers as well as hack
php and c++ admittedly</p>
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> currently on Windows but we're moving to Qt so I can
code on linux and only</p>
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> have to compile and test on Windows</p>
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> I've been using Linux for around a decade now, and at
work on the desktop for</p>
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> the last year with Windows in a VirtualBox VM, due to
this I haven't had to</p>
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> play with Wine in a commercial setting, and last used
it at home to play Wow</p>
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> years ago before it irritated me too much to continue
playing</p>
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> I happen to be a Sage 50 developer and I suspect your
mileage will vary, for</p>
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> one thing Sage UK will likely not support running
Sage on top of Wine.</p>
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> It also has a Sage SData Service these days and I'm
not sure how Wine handles</p>
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> windows services</p>
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> Ian</p>
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Hello Russ and Ian,</p>
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I would be interested in how to get Sage to run 20 users
reliably. What </p>
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server tuning would be required.</p>
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It should be possible to fine tune SAMBA so it works
better for Sage </p>
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than Windows 2003.</p>
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Regards,</p>
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Wayland.</p>
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>> Morning All!</p>
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>> Just a quick message to say hello! I am a
colchester resident and technical</p>
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>> director at Junari Ltd based in Colchester. I am
lucky enough to get play</p>
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>> with Linux in my day job :)</p>
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>> We use Ubuntu Linux servers to host OpenERP and
Django-based web</p>
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>> applications for our customers, and run a
KVM-based internal development</p>
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>> environment.</p>
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>> I also use linux (ubuntu desktop) on my work
laptop and my home PCs.</p>
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>> Unfortunately we do still use Winblows on most of
our workstations in the</p>
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>> office, mainly because our customers do too, and
we integrate with several</p>
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>> windows-based products such as Sage 50 and
Outlook.</p>
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>> I am eager to change this at some point but I
havn't really had a chance to</p>
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>> experiment with Wine / Crossover to see if its
feasable. Would be</p>
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>> interested if anyone has any experience of using
Wine in a commercial</p>
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>> environment?</p>
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>> We are also always on the lookout for good open
source developers!</p>
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>> Look forward to meeting any local linux people!</p>
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>> Russ</p>
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