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    I'm using CentOS when using ClearOS. When I build a webserver I use
    debian and follow The Perfect Debian Server instructions. For
    desktop and cryptominers I use Mint 19.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/09/18 09:50, Stewart Larner via
      Colchester wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Im still a big debian centos ubuntu user here. 
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        <div>VMWare is the way forward for servers these days. Makes
          managing it much easier. <br>
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        <div>Stewart</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 4 September 2018 at 01:11, Chris
          Pritchard via Colchester <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                use Gentoo on my server, but I'm a masochist<br>
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                  Pritchard<br>
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                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">colchester-bounces@mailman.<wbr>lug.org.uk</a>>
                  on behalf of Wayland Sothcott via Colchester <<a
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                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 3, 2018 11:00:13 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a
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                  <b>Cc:</b> Wayland Sothcott<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Colchester] The state of OpenSUSE</font>
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              <div>Hello James,<br>
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                Many years ago I replaced a Windows NT server with a new
                Dell running SUSE installed by Dell. It was pretty good
                but I did have to do some work setting up SAMBA and
                Email and MySQL.<br>
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                A couple of years ago they wanted to replace the server
                as it was old and had needed hardware repairs to keep it
                going. So we did the same thing again, ordered from Dell
                with SUSE installed. However this time Dell did not
                install SUSE but printed us a licence and supplied the
                machine blank with no install disk.<br>
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                I struggled and eventually got SUSE installed and RAID
                drivers loaded but I still had a heap of work ahead of
                me to set it up. I struggled with that too.<br>
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                I had been spoiled by mostly building servers using
                ClearOS. When you build a ClearOS server you can chose
                any options you want at build time and add to them at
                any time after. The whole thing is then easily managed
                via it's web interface just like a router is.<br>
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                So I formatted the Dell and installed ClearOS. I had to
                get the right RAID drivers but after that it was simple.
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                In the past SUSE was an amazing distro, now it's just
                meh. I don't see any point in using it. Maybe someone
                can say why it's good.<br>
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                In my opinion Ubuntu is probably the best all round but
                with privacy problems therefore Mint is better since
                it's Ubuntu goodness with all the bad stuff left out.<br>
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                <div class="m_-122012143434198981moz-cite-prefix">On
                  03/09/18 22:22, James Pain via Colchester wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="auto">Looking for anyone with experience of
                    using OpenSUSE to share their opinions of it;
                    especially why they chose it.</div>
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                  <div dir="auto">About 15 years ago, in an electronics
                    class, a knowledgable looking fellow (judged by
                    beard length alone) gave me about 4 CD’s with a
                    green charmilion on and the strange phrase OpenSUSE.
                    This was my only interaction with the distro.</div>
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                  <div dir="auto">Always been fascinated by why he
                    thought it was THE distro to beat distros, in terms
                    of desktop/ casual end user use. All I know about it
                    is that it’s German...I think.</div>
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                  <div dir="auto">Let me know your thoughts in terms of
                    community, support, updates, and development.</div>
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                            <div dir="ltr">Thanks,<br>
                              James Pain</div>
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