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<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
again,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Apologies for not replying before now. Been real busy.
Such is life, with a full time job and 3 young kids :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Joe,
you are right. Upgrading the good old memory to 2GB on the laptop solved
the problem. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Been
playing with Ubuntu on the laptop and my old PC. Really like it. So
would like to install this on my ageing PC. First step to me becoming
a full blown Ubuntu convert :-) Any recco's for partition/disk
sizes for Ubuntu? This PC is really old (8+ years old, 500 MHz Pentium 3
with "mere" 320MB memory).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
old desktop has 2 HDDs. One is whopping (!) 13GB. Shows my PC
age!! 7Gb free if it helps. 2nd HDD, bought 3 years ago or so,
is 75Gb ish, prob 80GB with system files etc installed. Can't
remember!! 30Gb free.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Question is do I have enough disk space for dual XP/Ubunto boot up
options? Fret not if I haven't. I am prepared to replace the 13GB
HDD with a bigger one (160GB for £25ish!!, amazing how cheap they are nowadays)
if this would help with the performance etc of Ubuntu.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=133440122-10032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Paul.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
deaf-lug-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:deaf-lug-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>JGJones<BR><B>Sent:</B> 26 February 2008 23:52<BR><B>To:</B>
deaf-lug@mailman.lug.org.uk<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Deaf-lug] Ubuntu Won't Work
on a laptop<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Ah I see your problem
now...<BR><BR>It's the Intel graphics - it's *very* well supported in Ubuntu
(Intel make open source drivers for them after all) - BUT it use a part of
your system memory as its graphics memory.<BR><BR>Booting from Live CD chews
up memory a lot (since it's not touching your HDD) so this might explain why
you're not getting a graphical screen. However since you've ordered 2GB, so as
soon as you plug that in, you'll be able to run Ubuntu on that laptop just
fine without issues - everything supported (apart from wifi, I don't know
which model it is if you have it, but most are getting supported these days
now) as you'll have plenty for graphic memory as well.<BR><BR>With more
memory, all is well. I've got 2GB on my laptop and Ubuntu just flies (although
I do have a Core 2 Duo 2.2GHz with 4Mb cache to go with it(!)) - am planning
to get 4GB for it (I actually run out of memory a lot - I run a few Virtual
Machines on it) and when I do...it's time to upgrade to my first 64bits
OS.<BR><BR>On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 18:47 +0000, Paul Johnston wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT color=#000000> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>Hi
there,</FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>The laptop is
actually an ordinary one purchased off Dell 2 years ago. No extra hardware
or anything like that. Minimum spec.</FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>Memory is 256MB
(which is indeed on the low side so I have ordered 2 gig for it) DDR2
SDRAM. CPU is Celeron M 1.4Ghz. Graphics is indeed bog standard
Intel (915GM/910GML if this means anything to you).</FONT></FONT>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>I have left my
Hardy Heron CD at work so this will have to wait until
tomorrow.</FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff>Cheers,</FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>Paul.</FONT></FONT>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000>-----Original
Message-----</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>From:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>
deaf-lug-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:deaf-lug-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk]</FONT></FONT><FONT
color=#000000><B><FONT size=2>On Behalf Of </FONT></B></FONT><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2>JGJones</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>Sent:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2> 26
February 2008 17:31</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>To:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>
deaf-lug@mailman.lug.org.uk</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>Subject:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>
Re: [Deaf-lug] Ubuntu Won't Work on a
laptop</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#000000>Paul </FONT><BR><BR><FONT color=#000000>IF
possible can you give us the hardware specification for the Dell Inspiron
1300 laptop? What CPU, memory, graphics etc?</FONT><BR><BR><FONT
color=#000000>Dell Inspiron are quite well supported in Ubuntu so it's
unusual to hear of a live CD not working on a Dell Inspiron, so it's
possible you've got one with some funky hardware that Ubuntu sadly doesn't
have the drivers for but I really doubt that! :) I'm looking specifically
for the graphics bit (which *should* just work - Intel graphics is open
source, nvidia and ATi both are well supported with open and closed source
drivers, SiS graphics even is supported and even VIA's UniChrome graphics
is supported too although not as brilliant)</FONT><BR><BR><FONT
color=#000000>Regarding downloading Hardy Heron - you're right that it's
still in beta, however it's passed the feature freeze phase now - meaning
that all software version that you'll get with that is frozen at that
moment and won't go any further and from this point on it's all just
bug-fixing so you'll get increasing stability with it (plus it's to be the
LTS (Long Term Support) version as well - which is I think 5 years for
desktops?) - no harm in testing that with your laptop - I am going to be
upgrading to Hardy myself quite soon too on my primary laptop (I can live
with any errors etc during the beta phase and often help with bug-fix
testing anyway)</FONT><BR>
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<TD><BR><BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><FONT color=#000000>On Tue,
2008-02-26 at 09:12 +0000, Paul Johnston wrote: </FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><PRE><FONT color=#000000>Hi Ben,</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Thanks for this. The alternate desktop CD does not seem to have the demo option? I would like to try out Ubuntu first before installing it on the laptop.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>I have yet to try the CTRL + ALT +F1 or connecting the laptop to an exteranl monitor though.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>In the meantime I am downloading the Hardy Heron version of Ubuntu. To see if this will work ok on the laptop. I know this is still a beta version but is the final one, so should be relatively bug free.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Cheers,</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Paul.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>----- Original Message ----</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>From: Ben Fletcher <<A href="mailto:enlightenedtux@googlemail.com">enlightenedtux@googlemail.com</A>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>To: <A href="mailto:deaf-lug@mailman.lug.org.uk">deaf-lug@mailman.lug.org.uk</A></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Sent: Monday, 25 February, 2008 12:38:38 PM</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Subject: Re: [Deaf-lug] Ubuntu Won't Work on a laptop</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>re corruption... yes however drivers used on your computer may be</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>different to drivers used on your laptop, and one of these drivers for</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>laptop (e.g. driver for display) may be corrupted on the CD.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>When you get to the blank screen, does CTRL + ALT + F1 bring you to a</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>console prompt? Asking you for your username and password?</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Have you tried connecting the laptop to some external monitor, and</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>using that instead of laptop's screen, for the installation?</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>The alternate desktop CD is here:</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000><A href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download">http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download</A></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>towards the bottom, you should see a checkbox to tick.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Rgds, Ben</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>On 25/02/2008, Paul Johnston <<A href="mailto:gingerdeafman@yahoo.co.uk">gingerdeafman@yahoo.co.uk</A>> wrote:</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> Hi Ben,</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> Thanks for this. The model is Dell Inspiron 1300 (over 2 years old).</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> CD corrupted? I wouldn't have thought so as it works fine on my other PC.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> Alternate desktop CD? News to me. Where could I get hold of one? (URL).</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> Cheers,</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> Paul.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> ----- Original Message ----</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> From: Ben Fletcher <<A href="mailto:enlightenedtux@googlemail.com">enlightenedtux@googlemail.com</A>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> To: <A href="mailto:deaf-lug@mailman.lug.org.uk">deaf-lug@mailman.lug.org.uk</A></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> Sent: Monday, 25 February, 2008 10:40:38 AM</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> Subject: Re: [Deaf-lug] Ubuntu Won't Work on a laptop</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> Got name of the laptop model? Is the CD not corrupted? How about</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> giving the alternate desktop CD a try? It has a text based installer</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> which may give you a better idea of what the problem is. When you</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> download the CD, you can tick a box to ask for the alternate desktop</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> CD:</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> Rgds, Ben</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> On 25/02/2008, Paul Johnston <<A href="mailto:gingerdeafman@yahoo.co.uk">gingerdeafman@yahoo.co.uk</A>> wrote:</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> > Hi again,</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> ></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> > I have created a Ubuntu bootable CD that works fine on my ancient desktop PC but doesn't work on one of our laptops.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> ></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> > It boots up ok, showing Ubuntu screen with the orange progress indicator bar and then reaches beige screen with mouse pointer which can be moved. Just that blank beige screen, no "swirly" desktop image or task bar. Any ideas? 256MB not enough perhaps?</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> ></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> > Cheers,</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> ></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>> > Paul.</FONT>
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