From steven@mcintosh-group.com Fri Aug 23 19:19:20 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:19:20 +0100 Received: from smtp2.global.net.uk ([80.189.91.22]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17iJ1k-00052t-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:19:20 +0100 Received: from gr.189.6.102.dial.global.net.uk ([80.189.6.102] helo=there) by smtp2.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17iJ1e-0004qD-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:19:16 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Steven A. McIntosh Organization: The McIntosh Group To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Subject: [Dundee] MSLinux Sender: dundee-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: steven@mcintosh-group.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Aug 23 20:26:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:17:17 +0100 Has anyone seen the new Microsoft Linux released under the Gates Public License. I s**t you not. http://www.mslinux.org/ see the above site for a laugh at what the man is trying now, running scared or what? Regards Steven From mharrigan@computing.dundee.ac.uk Fri Aug 23 22:59:45 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:59:45 +0100 Received: from dulce.mic.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.34.9]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17iMT2-0000K7-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:59:44 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain (80.195.69.203 [80.195.69.203]) by dulce.mic.dundee.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id PL7MRDYT; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:50:06 +0100 Subject: Re: [Dundee] MSLinux From: Mark Harrigan To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Message-Id: <1030139929.5786.1.camel@faraday> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Aug 23 23:00:01 2002 X-Original-Date: 23 Aug 2002 22:58:43 +0100 Yeah read the comments about it :-) What others are saying: "They want me to be a whore!" -- Linus Torvalds. "He doesn't scare me as much as he scares others." -- Richard Stallman "Jesus Christ, who are these people?" -- Bill Gates "I don't remember agreeing to that." -- Janet Reno "This is horseshit. Horseshit, horseshit, horseshit. And for those of you who don't know what that means, it's the shit that comes from a horse!" -- Greg, Columbia Internet -- ===================== Mark Harrigan Applied Computing University of Dundee ===================== From jason.cormie@wormwood666.demon.co.uk Sat Aug 24 00:12:15 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 00:12:15 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.89]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17iNbD-0001Im-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 24 Aug 2002 00:12:15 +0100 Received: from wormwood666.demon.co.uk ([158.152.135.248] helo=there) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17iNbC-000PHa-0V for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 24 Aug 2002 00:12:15 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Jason Cormie To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Dundee] MSLinux X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Aug 24 00:13:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 00:13:25 +0100 On Friday 23 Aug 2002 7:17 pm, you coughed up: > Has anyone seen the new Microsoft Linux released under the Gates Public > License. I s**t you not. > > http://www.mslinux.org/ More where that came from http://www.distrowatch.com/fun.php -- Jason Cormie From dunkers@blueyonder.co.uk Sun Aug 25 16:30:27 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:30:27 +0100 Received: from pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.121] helo=blueyonder.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17izLO-00006J-00 for dundee@lists.lug.org.uk; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:30:26 +0100 Received: from pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:27:48 +0100 Received: from coultin (unverified [80.195.80.136]) by pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:27:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c24c4b$f9cc7720$0202a8c0@coultin> From: "Duncan Gauld" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Dundee] computer bits Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Aug 25 16:31:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:27:51 +0100 If anyone is looking for old soundcards (kier: you might find something here)/modems/SCSI cards etc I have several ebay auctions ending within the hour: http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=cyb erdunx rgds Duncan. From bob@shand.org.uk Sun Sep 01 14:01:33 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 14:01:33 +0100 Received: from mail1.tay.ac.uk ([193.60.160.96]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17lUM9-00053s-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 01 Sep 2002 14:01:33 +0100 Received: from shand.org.uk (195.137.38.37 [195.137.38.37]) by mail1.tay.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2656.59) id RX1P8PT0; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 14:01:31 +0100 Message-ID: <3D720F98.3040506@shand.org.uk> From: Robert Shand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Dundee] IRC Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Sep 1 14:02:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 14:01:12 +0100 Hi all, Does anyone hang around on IRC? Is the an 'Official' Dundee LUG channel? Bob From mharrigan@computing.dundee.ac.uk Sun Sep 01 14:56:19 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 14:56:19 +0100 Received: from dulce.mic.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.34.9]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17lVD9-0006I1-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 01 Sep 2002 14:56:19 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain (80.195.69.203 [80.195.69.203]) by dulce.mic.dundee.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id RV17Z3XK; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 14:46:57 +0100 Subject: Re: [Dundee] IRC From: Mark Harrigan To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: <3D720F98.3040506@shand.org.uk> References: <3D720F98.3040506@shand.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Message-Id: <1030888601.18517.4.camel@faraday> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Sep 1 14:57:00 2002 X-Original-Date: 01 Sep 2002 14:56:35 +0100 On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 14:01, Robert Shand wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone hang around on IRC? Is the an 'Official' Dundee LUG channel? > > Bob > There's not an official atm but it's something I always meant to suggest setting up. If people fancy I could see about getting a channel setup on oftc.net, one of the members of the Belfast LUG that'd I'm also in has recently setup a new oftc server so I'm sure it wouldn't be too much hassle to get him to set it up. -- ===================== Mark Harrigan Applied Computing University of Dundee ===================== From dunkers@blueyonder.co.uk Sun Sep 01 21:00:20 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:00:20 +0100 Received: from pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.121] helo=blueyonder.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17latQ-0000ij-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:00:20 +0100 Received: from pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sun, 1 Sep 2002 21:00:20 +0100 Received: from coultin (unverified [80.195.80.30]) by pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 21:00:20 +0100 Message-ID: <002501c251f2$3473e060$0202a8c0@coultin> From: "Duncan Gauld" To: References: <3D720F98.3040506@shand.org.uk> <1030888601.18517.4.camel@faraday> Subject: Re: [Dundee] IRC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Sep 1 21:01:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 21:00:21 +0100 > On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 14:01, Robert Shand wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone hang around on IRC? Is the an 'Official' Dundee LUG channel? > > > > Bob > > > There's not an official atm but it's something I always meant to suggest > setting up. If people fancy I could see about getting a channel setup on > oftc.net, one of the members of the Belfast LUG that'd I'm also in has > recently setup a new oftc server so I'm sure it wouldn't be too much > hassle to get him to set it up. An official IRC server sounds good to me - if you would like to organise one then please do :) Duncan Gauld ------------------======------------------ Dundee & Tayside Linux User Group http://www.dundee.lug.org.uk ------------------::::::::::::::::::------------------ From jamie@slugbox.no-ip.org Mon Sep 02 00:03:01 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 00:03:01 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17ldkD-0000Lx-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 02 Sep 2002 00:03:01 +0100 Received: from [62.64.236.191] (helo=slugbox.no-ip.org) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17ldkR-000I4w-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 02 Sep 2002 00:03:16 +0100 Received: (from jamie@localhost) by slugbox.no-ip.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g81MxdW03294 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 23:59:39 +0100 From: Jamie To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Dundee] IRC Message-ID: <20020901235937.A3286@slugbox.no-ip.org> References: <3D720F98.3040506@shand.org.uk> <1030888601.18517.4.camel@faraday> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1030888601.18517.4.camel@faraday>; from mharrigan@computing.dundee.ac.uk on Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 02:56:35PM +0100 Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Sep 2 00:04:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 23:59:37 +0100 --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The people that host the LUG website's also host an IRC server. Some of the= other LUGS have IRC channels on here. I used to be able to run eggdrop on the LUG server, at least until they swi= tched over to the xinit box. Maybe this could be an option for you. at 02:56:35PM +0100, Mark Harrigan wrote: > On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 14:01, Robert Shand wrote: > > Hi all, > >=20 > > Does anyone hang around on IRC? Is the an 'Official' Dundee LUG channe= l? > >=20 > > Bob > >=20 > There's not an official atm but it's something I always meant to suggest > setting up. If people fancy I could see about getting a channel setup on > oftc.net, one of the members of the Belfast LUG that'd I'm also in has > recently setup a new oftc server so I'm sure it wouldn't be too much > hassle to get him to set it up. --=20 Jamie Adams SCARBOROUGH LINUX USER GROUP www.scarborough.lug.org.uk=20 ICQ :- 140365501 EML :- jamie@scarborough.lug.org.uk --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9cpvZqZrVw9f6kjQRAutrAKCRwhAQ4WQNDCe7YMJeZ0jNYg83xgCdEsvd 4a50qFOvJD5bTWVaiJLJQGA= =YRPV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp-- From jason.cormie@wormwood666.demon.co.uk Tue Sep 10 22:18:54 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:18:54 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17osPO-0007c7-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:18:54 +0100 Received: from wormwood666.demon.co.uk ([158.152.135.248] helo=there) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17osPN-000DFT-0X for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:18:53 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Jason Cormie To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Subject: [Dundee] WYSE Terminal Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Sep 10 22:19:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:19:56 +0100 Anybody want one before it gets thrown to the four winds? -- Jason Cormie From wgu@research-labs.co.uk Wed Sep 11 07:39:29 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:39:29 +0100 Received: from mail.devnet-uk.net ([62.6.184.200]) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17p19t-000723-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:39:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 21793 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2002 06:39:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.6?) (62.31.123.92) by mail.devnet-uk.net with SMTP; 11 Sep 2002 06:39:27 -0000 From: "Wm. G. Urquhart" X-X-Sender: wgu@system.wurquhart.co.uk To: "dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk" Subject: Re: [Dundee] WYSE Terminal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Sep 11 07:40:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:39:26 +0100 (BST) On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Jason Cormie wrote: > Anybody want one before it gets thrown to the four winds? > Hi Jason, I'll have one if there's one available. Heck I'll even come and collect it. -- Regards, William. From killthegene@postmaster.co.uk Wed Sep 11 19:05:24 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:05:24 +0100 Received: from smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.105]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17pBrg-0003MC-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:05:24 +0100 Received: from pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.113]) by smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 17pBrf-0002rA-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:05:23 +0100 Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26539; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:05:23 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "Keir Lawson" Subject: Re: [Dundee] WYSE Terminal To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: killthegene; Local time: Wed Sep 11 19:05:23 2002; Local host: pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 80.225.46.30; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Sep 11 19:06:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:05:23 +0100 i dont know what one of those things are but if its an old computer ill have one (mabye) cheers keir -- religion is the opium of the masses Marx From jason.cormie@wormwood666.demon.co.uk Wed Sep 11 21:50:46 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:50:46 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.85]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17pERi-0006X7-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:50:46 +0100 Received: from wormwood666.demon.co.uk ([158.152.135.248] helo=there) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17pERh-0007Uv-0U for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:50:46 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jason Cormie To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Dundee] WYSE Terminal X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Sep 11 21:51:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:51:48 +0100 On Wednesday 11 Sep 2002 7:05 pm, you coughed up: > i dont know what one of those things are but if its an old computer ill > have one (mabye) > > cheers keir sorry stolen by the evil Cleaners http://www.wyse.com/products/gpt/wy150_120.htm -- Jason Cormie From jason.cormie@wormwood666.demon.co.uk Wed Sep 11 21:52:56 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:52:56 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.85]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17pETo-0006Xu-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:52:56 +0100 Received: from wormwood666.demon.co.uk ([158.152.135.248] helo=there) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17pETn-00005v-0U for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:52:56 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jason Cormie To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Dundee] WYSE Terminal X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Sep 11 21:53:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:53:58 +0100 On Wednesday 11 Sep 2002 7:39 am, you coughed up: > On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Jason Cormie wrote: > > Anybody want one before it gets thrown to the four winds? > > Hi Jason, > > I'll have one if there's one available. Heck I'll even come and collect > it. Too late the cleaners got it before I could set it free... William, have spoke to Rory about the one he promised you, he is going to drop it into my work (Abertay Uni) and you can pick it up from there -- Jason Cormie From wgu@research-labs.co.uk Thu Sep 12 07:10:26 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:10:26 +0100 Received: from mail.devnet-uk.net ([62.6.184.200]) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17pNBK-00079P-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:10:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 24757 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002 06:10:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.6?) (62.31.123.92) by mail.devnet-uk.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 06:10:24 -0000 From: "Wm. G. Urquhart" X-X-Sender: wgu@system.wurquhart.co.uk To: "dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk" Subject: Re: [Dundee] WYSE Terminal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Sep 12 07:11:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:10:23 +0100 (BST) On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Jason Cormie wrote: > On Wednesday 11 Sep 2002 7:39 am, you coughed up: > > On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Jason Cormie wrote: > > > Anybody want one before it gets thrown to the four winds? > > > > Hi Jason, > > > > I'll have one if there's one available. Heck I'll even come and collect > > it. > > Too late the cleaners got it before I could set it free... > > William, have spoke to Rory about the one he promised you, he is going to > drop it into my work (Abertay Uni) and you can pick it up from there > Nice one Jason I appreciate that, thanks guys. -- William. From dunkers@blueyonder.co.uk Fri Sep 20 21:02:18 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:02:18 +0100 Received: from pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.121] helo=blueyonder.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17sTyj-0003Ux-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:02:18 +0100 Received: from pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:02:16 +0100 Received: from coultin (unverified [62.31.91.64]) by pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:02:16 +0100 Message-ID: <001301c260e0$a6c64e30$0202a8c0@coultin> From: "Duncan Gauld" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Dundee] Fw: Aberdeen LUG initial meeting Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Sep 20 21:03:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:02:30 +0100 Anyone.. ? ------ From: "Aidan Karley" To: ; ; ; ; ; ; Subject: Aberdeen LUG initial meeting > A group of us are planning an inaugural meeting for the > proposed Aberdeen Linux Users Group > Date : 26 September 2002 > Time : 19:00 for 19:30 (start of boring talking) > Venue : front room of the 'Prince of Wales' bar, just off St > Nicholas Square (you know the place with the 6 cash > machines in 20 metres square). > How to recognise us? > : (1) anoraks and geeky appearances > (2) This bar has a small shelf running around it, well > above head height. Look for the fluffy Tux, then look > towards your beer. Between the two, you should see > several geeks ... > > Please pass this on to your website people and/ or mailing lists > as appropriate. > Thanks in advance. > > The only people we're significantly likely to have a > geographical overlap with are the Tayside people ("dunkers"). MorayLUG > are based somewhat further from us than TayLUG are. > > -- > Aidan Karley, > Aberdeen, Scotland > Present location: 57º10'11"N, 02º08'43"W (sub-tropical Aberdeen) > > From wgu@research-labs.co.uk Sun Sep 22 18:00:10 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:00:10 +0100 Received: from mail.devnet-uk.net ([62.6.184.200]) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17tA5a-0003Qx-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:00:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 64537 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 17:00:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.6?) (62.31.123.23) by mail.devnet-uk.net with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 17:00:00 -0000 From: "Wm. G. Urquhart" X-X-Sender: wgu@system.wurquhart.co.uk To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Dundee] Does anyone know how to... Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Sep 22 18:01:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:59:59 +0100 (BST) Hi Guys, I've installed an LDAP Server using OpenLDAP 2.5.1 and added a few records to is using an ldif file via ldapadd, so I know the system works. However, whenever I try to access it using the LDAP API I get Protocol Error: requested protocol version not allowed. This is down to the fact that the libs used to build the program default to v2 and not v3. There are references in the documentation saying that the libs support both versions of the protocol and implications that this can be changed to support v3 but I'm buggered if I can see how. Has anyone out there done this before and got it to work? I'd appreciate any pointers on this. -- William From steven@mcintosh-group.com Mon Sep 23 20:06:34 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:06:34 +0100 Received: from smtp1.global.net.uk ([80.189.91.21]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17tYXR-0007Xh-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:06:33 +0100 Received: from gr.189.16.80.dial.global.net.uk ([80.189.16.80] helo=there) by smtp1.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17tYXJ-00024g-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:06:25 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Steven A. McIntosh Organization: The McIntosh Group To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Dundee] Does anyone know how to... X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: steven@mcintosh-group.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Sep 23 20:07:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:06:33 +0100 Hi William, Nothing to do with LDAP but more to do with the software we talked about in IT. My brother in law came through and provided, so you don't need to bring the disks on Wednesday. Many thanks nonetheless. Regards Steven The ugly driving-instructor. On Sunday 22 September 2002 5:59 pm, you wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I've installed an LDAP Server using OpenLDAP 2.5.1 and added a few records > to is using an ldif file via ldapadd, so I know the system works. However, > whenever I try to access it using the LDAP API I get Protocol Error: > requested protocol version not allowed. This is down to the fact that the > libs used to build the program default to v2 and not v3. There are > references in the documentation saying that the libs support both versions > of the protocol and implications that this can be changed to support v3 > but I'm buggered if I can see how. > > Has anyone out there done this before and got it to work? I'd appreciate > any pointers on this. From rb@bitbucket.co.uk Mon Sep 23 22:01:36 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:01:36 +0100 Received: from pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.98] helo=blueyonder.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17taKm-0008VL-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:01:36 +0100 Received: from pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:01:13 +0100 Received: from bitbox2.bitbucket.lan (unverified [62.31.91.181]) by pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:01:12 +0100 Subject: Re: [Dundee] Fw: Aberdeen LUG initial meeting From: Rory Beaton To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: <001301c260e0$a6c64e30$0202a8c0@coultin> References: <001301c260e0$a6c64e30$0202a8c0@coultin> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Message-Id: <1032814902.1823.3.camel@bitbox2.bitbucket.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Sep 23 22:02:00 2002 X-Original-Date: 23 Sep 2002 22:01:42 +0100 Hmmmm... I might have tried to get up for that if it wasn't so late in the fiscal month...:c) Maybe when we have our inaugural do we can make it the beginning of whatever month so that I've still got some crinkly folding stuff... rb On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 21:02, Duncan Gauld wrote: > Anyone.. ? >=20 > ------ >=20 > From: "Aidan Karley" > To: ; ; > ; ; ; > ; > Subject: Aberdeen LUG initial meeting >=20 >=20 > > A group of us are planning an inaugural meeting for the > > proposed Aberdeen Linux Users Group > > Date : 26 September 2002 > > Time : 19:00 for 19:30 (start of boring talking) > > Venue : front room of the 'Prince of Wales' bar, just off St > > Nicholas Square (you know the place with the 6 cash > > machines in 20 metres square). > > How to recognise us? > > : (1) anoraks and geeky appearances > > (2) This bar has a small shelf running around it, well > > above head height. Look for the fluffy Tux, then look > > towards your beer. Between the two, you should see > > several geeks ... > > > > Please pass this on to your website people and/ or mailing lists > > as appropriate. > > Thanks in advance. > > > > The only people we're significantly likely to have a > > geographical overlap with are the Tayside people ("dunkers"). MorayLUG > > are based somewhat further from us than TayLUG are. > > > > -- > > Aidan Karley, > > Aberdeen, Scotland > > Present location: 57=BA10'11"N, 02=BA08'43"W (sub-tropical Aberdeen) > > > > >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Dundee mailing list > Dundee@lists.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee From jason.cormie@wormwood666.demon.co.uk Mon Sep 23 23:10:15 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:10:15 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.85]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17tbPD-0000fO-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:10:15 +0100 Received: from wormwood666.demon.co.uk ([158.152.135.248] helo=there) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17tbPC-0001FJ-0U for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:10:15 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jason Cormie To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Dundee] Fw: Aberdeen LUG initial meeting X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <001301c260e0$a6c64e30$0202a8c0@coultin> <1032814902.1823.3.camel@bitbox2.bitbucket.lan> In-Reply-To: <1032814902.1823.3.camel@bitbox2.bitbucket.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Sep 23 23:11:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:11:04 +0100 > Maybe when we have our inaugural do we can make it the beginning of > whatever month so that I've still got some crinkly folding stuff... Seconded -- Jason Cormie From killthegene@postmaster.co.uk Sat Sep 28 19:09:00 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:09:00 +0100 Received: from smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.105]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17vM1U-0008U5-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:09:00 +0100 Received: from pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.101]) by smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 17vM1U-0005fs-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:09:00 +0100 Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06881; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:09:00 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "Keir Lawson" To: T-LUG mail list X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: killthegene; Local time: Sat Sep 28 19:09:00 2002; Local host: pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 80.225.11.35; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: [Dundee] help!!!!!! Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Sep 28 19:09:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:09:00 +0100 i foolishly uninstalled my bootloader(acronis os selector 5 from the cover cd of an issue of .net magazine) and now i cant get into windows. all i am left with is a text mode GRUB 0.90. the problem: i dont know any of the commands and the help doesnt live up to its name. i can get into linux via a boot disk however i have lost my windows one. coulsd somebody please help me with grub commands?(im running windowsME by the way) thanks keir -- religion is the opium of the masses Marx From jason.cormie@wormwood666.demon.co.uk Sat Sep 28 19:53:33 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:53:33 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.85]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17vMib-0000WP-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:53:33 +0100 Received: from wormwood666.demon.co.uk ([158.152.135.248] helo=there) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17vMia-0005tZ-0U; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:53:33 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jason Cormie To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk, "Keir Lawson" Subject: Re: [Dundee] help!!!!!! X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Sep 28 19:54:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:54:14 +0100 On Saturday 28 Sep 2002 7:09 pm, Keir Lawson wrote: > i foolishly uninstalled my bootloader(acronis os selector 5 from the cover > cd of an issue of .net magazine) and now i cant get into windows. all i am > left with is a text mode GRUB 0.90. the problem: i dont know any of the > commands and the help doesnt live up to its name. i can get into linux via > a boot disk however i have lost my windows one. coulsd somebody please > help me with grub commands?(im running windowsME by the way) > > thanks > > keir I think you need an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst like: title windows root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 thats if your windows partition is on disk0 partition 0 -- Jason Cormie From steven@mcintosh-group.com Sun Sep 29 07:55:55 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 07:55:55 +0100 Received: from smtp2.global.net.uk ([80.189.91.22]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17vXze-0000Lq-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 07:55:54 +0100 Received: from gr.189.9.9.dial.global.net.uk ([80.189.9.9] helo=there) by smtp2.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17vXzZ-0001zu-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 07:55:49 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Steven A. McIntosh Organization: The McIntosh Group To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Dundee] help!!!!!! X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: steven@mcintosh-group.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Sep 29 07:56:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 07:55:33 +0100 Check the linux documentation on grub, as there is a general menu.lst in the folder, copy that file to /boot/grub on disk hd(0,0) or hda as we normally call it and see if the menu appears when you boot up, if not you will have to install grub from the grub command line, also in the documentation. I will try to remember how I did mine. Regards Steven On Saturday 28 September 2002 7:09 pm, you wrote: > i foolishly uninstalled my bootloader(acronis os selector 5 from the cover > cd of an issue of .net magazine) and now i cant get into windows. all i am > left with is a text mode GRUB 0.90. the problem: i dont know any of the > commands and the help doesnt live up to its name. i can get into linux via > a boot disk however i have lost my windows one. coulsd somebody please > help me with grub commands?(im running windowsME by the way) > > thanks > > keir From jason.cormie@wormwood666.demon.co.uk Tue Oct 15 21:43:52 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:43:52 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.88]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 181YXg-0004sR-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:43:52 +0100 Received: from wormwood666.demon.co.uk ([158.152.135.248] helo=there) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 181YXd-000C4F-0U for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:43:49 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jason Cormie To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Subject: [Dundee] Any Sign of a Meeting Planned? Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Oct 15 21:44:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:44:28 +0100 From dunkers@blueyonder.co.uk Tue Oct 15 22:04:46 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:04:46 +0100 Received: from pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.98] helo=blueyonder.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 181Yru-0005NP-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:04:46 +0100 Received: from pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:04:45 +0100 Received: from coultin (unverified [80.195.4.37]) by pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:04:45 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c2748e$7d5d4dc0$0702a8c0@coultin> From: "Duncan Gauld" To: References: Subject: Re: [Dundee] Any Sign of a Meeting Planned? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Oct 15 22:05:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:04:45 +0100 Hi everyone, For some time now the list has been gathering members; many are students and some were recruited from the Linux Format LUG page. I have now tried finding members at Abertay University and have used things such as the Linux Counter and ICQ as well. We now have around 20 members which is quite a nice number, especially for a place like dundee :-) A "first meeting" which will likely come soon will almost certainly be held at a meeting of the Dundee Computer User Group as they are already established and have office bearers appointed and such. I have been to these meetings before so know the guy who runs the group. It would probably be easiest to hold meetings there for the first several occassions because of the convenience of having access to a venue with (old) computers, maybe internet access (they were at Graham Street college for a while and have moved on to a Kingsway campus now). I'll be speaking to Paddy Shepherd (founder of the DCUG) and will try to arrange something. Fortunately, he is rather keen on the idea of a lug in dundee, and it would be handy to have the LUG attached to an established group. :-) Any comments appreciated.. Duncan Gauld From jason.cormie@wormwood666.demon.co.uk Fri Oct 18 00:17:15 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 00:17:15 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.89]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 182JtD-0000yY-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 00:17:15 +0100 Received: from wormwood666.demon.co.uk ([158.152.135.248] helo=there) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 182JtC-0000X4-0V for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 00:17:14 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jason Cormie To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Dundee] WYSE Terminal X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Oct 18 00:18:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 00:17:54 +0100 > > William, have spoke to Rory about the one he promised you, he is going to > > drop it into my work (Abertay Uni) and you can pick it up from there Rory has finally dropped of that terminal, If your still wanting it you can pick it up between 9-5 mon-fri from Abertay. Phone me on 01382308826 or email ccojdc@abertay.ac.uk to arrange collection. -- Jason Cormie From james.mitchell22@ntlworld.com Mon Oct 21 20:08:55 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:08:55 +0100 Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.43]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 183hv5-0004Bl-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:08:55 +0100 Received: from JIMBO ([213.105.129.202]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021021190851.MBPW292.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@JIMBO> for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:08:51 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c27935$53d21660$ca8169d5@JIMBO> From: "james.mitchell22" To: Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2793D.AD02C100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [Dundee] subscribe dundee Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: "james.mitchell22" List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Oct 21 20:20:03 2002 X-Original-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:08:52 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2793D.AD02C100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe dundee Regards jim mitchell ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2793D.AD02C100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2793D.AD02C100-- From dunkers@blueyonder.co.uk Mon Oct 21 20:23:09 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:23:09 +0100 Received: from pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.98] helo=blueyonder.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 183i8r-0004OW-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:23:09 +0100 Received: from pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:23:05 +0100 Received: from coultin (unverified [80.195.4.37]) by pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:23:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c27937$4cb90030$0702a8c0@coultin> From: "Duncan Gauld" To: References: <000c01c27935$53d21660$ca8169d5@JIMBO> Subject: Re: [Dundee] subscribe dundee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Oct 21 20:27:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:23:13 +0100 I have now added you to the subscriber list :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "james.mitchell22" To: Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:08 PM Subject: [Dundee] subscribe dundee subscribe dundee Regards jim mitchell From conrad@postmaster.co.uk Wed Oct 30 22:34:43 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:34:43 +0000 Received: from smtp5.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.104]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1871QB-0001uy-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:34:43 +0000 Received: from pmweb8.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.114]) by smtp5.uk1.bibliotech.net with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 1871QA-0001jo-00 for dundee@lists.lug.org.uk; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:34:42 +0000 Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb8.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA14188; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:34:42 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "conor mcstay" To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: conrad; Local time: Wed Oct 30 22:34:42 2002; Local host: pmweb8.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 213.122.151.96; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: [Dundee] ppc linux Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Oct 30 22:35:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:34:42 +0000 any body running linux on a mac or ppc machine? i have an imac dv and a power computing powercenter/132 that i hope to run yellow dog on any advice if possible? From Jim_dd7@blueyonder.co.uk Thu Oct 31 07:30:53 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:30:53 +0000 Received: from pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.96] helo=blueyonder.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1879n3-00085H-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:30:53 +0000 Received: from pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:30:52 +0000 Received: from Jims (unverified [62.31.87.45]) by pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:30:52 +0000 From: "jim_dd7" To: Subject: RE: [Dundee] ppc linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Oct 31 07:31:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:29:00 -0000 Sorry running on a AMD400 -----Original Message----- From: dundee-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:dundee-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk]On Behalf Of conor mcstay Sent: 30 October 2002 22:35 To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Dundee] ppc linux any body running linux on a mac or ppc machine? i have an imac dv and a power computing powercenter/132 that i hope to run yellow dog on any advice if possible? _______________________________________________ Dundee mailing list Dundee@lists.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee From jason.cormie@wormwood666.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 31 20:55:38 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:55:38 +0000 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 187MLq-0002QV-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:55:38 +0000 Received: from wormwood666.demon.co.uk ([158.152.135.248] helo=there) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 187MLp-000L8m-0X for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:55:37 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jason Cormie To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Dundee] ppc linux X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Oct 31 20:56:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:56:09 +0000 Sorry, only x86 & Alpha's -- Jason Cormie From killthegene@postmaster.co.uk Fri Nov 01 18:57:16 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:57:16 +0000 Received: from smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.105]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 187gyq-00054z-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:57:16 +0000 Received: from pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.113]) by smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 187gyp-0005in-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:57:15 +0000 Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11240; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:57:14 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "Keir Lawson" To: T-LUG mail list X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: killthegene; Local time: Fri Nov 1 18:57:13 2002; Local host: pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 80.225.68.225; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: [Dundee] Dundee uni Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 1 18:58:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:57:13 +0000 Does anybody in this LUG work(or study) in dundee uni applied computing? it just that as you probbaly allready guessed im only 15 and im going there to do a work experince thing along with conor(ppc boy) cheers keir -- religion is the opium of the masses Marx From mharrigan@computing.dundee.ac.uk Fri Nov 01 19:14:59 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:14:59 +0000 Received: from dulce.mic.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.34.9]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 187hFz-0005JP-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:14:59 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (pc-62-31-89-31-dn.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.89.31]) by dulce.mic.dundee.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id WBQAJW3L; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:13:05 -0000 Subject: Re: [Dundee] Dundee uni From: Mark Harrigan To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Message-Id: <1036178470.13833.0.camel@faraday> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 1 19:15:01 2002 X-Original-Date: 01 Nov 2002 19:21:09 +0000 On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 18:57, Keir Lawson wrote: > Does anybody in this LUG work(or study) in dundee uni applied computing? it just that as you probbaly allready guessed im only 15 and im going there to do a work experince thing along with conor(ppc boy) > > cheers > > keir /me allegedly studies there... -- ===================== Mark Harrigan Applied Computing University of Dundee ===================== From cshennan@cs-systems.co.uk Sat Nov 02 01:13:15 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 01:13:15 +0000 Received: from s.bytehost.com ([64.23.60.61]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 187mqg-0002I5-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 01:13:15 +0000 Received: from cs-main (pc-80-195-69-143-dn.blueyonder.co.uk [80.195.69.143]) by s.bytehost.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA2184B13327 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 01:08:04 GMT Message-Id: <200211020108.gA2184B13327@s.bytehost.com> From: CS Systems To: X-Mailer: PocoMail 2.5 (960) - Registered Version References: Subject: Re: [Dundee] Dundee uni Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Nov 2 01:14:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 01:13:00 +0000 I study there too. Yours sincerely Christopher Shennan CS Systems Web: http://www.cs-systems.co.uk Email: webmaster@cs-systems.co.uk From tim_and_em@yahoo.co.uk Sat Nov 02 22:58:40 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:58:40 +0000 Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.32]) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1887Dz-00008D-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:58:40 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO x) (tim?and?em@212.159.33.2 with login) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2002 22:58:37 -0000 From: "Timothy Roberts" To: Subject: RE: [Dundee] Dundee uni Organization: University of Dundee Message-ID: <000d01c282c3$609953d0$02219fd4@x> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Nov 2 22:59:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:58:29 -0000 I am doing my PhD at Dundee. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: dundee-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:dundee-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Keir Lawson Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 6:57 PM To: T-LUG mail list Subject: [Dundee] Dundee uni Does anybody in this LUG work(or study) in dundee uni applied computing? it just that as you probbaly allready guessed im only 15 and im going there to do a work experince thing along with conor(ppc boy) cheers keir -- religion is the opium of the masses Marx _______________________________________________ Dundee mailing list Dundee@lists.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From killthegene@postmaster.co.uk Mon Nov 04 20:52:49 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 20:52:49 +0000 Received: from smtp5.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.104]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 188oDJ-0001Px-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 20:52:49 +0000 Received: from pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.101]) by smtp5.uk1.bibliotech.net with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 188oDI-0000O9-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 20:52:48 +0000 Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08752; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:52:46 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "Keir Lawson" To: T-LUG mail list X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: killthegene; Local time: Mon Nov 4 20:52:46 2002; Local host: pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 80.225.53.171; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: [Dundee] bootable DVD Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Nov 4 20:53:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 20:52:46 +0000 could some one help me? this isnt strictly a linux problem so here goes; I have recently purchased a DVD drive but i cant seem to boot from it i have set the jumper to master and the jumper of my old cdrom to slave but now the DVD drive cant be detected by my bios. when i leave the cdrom in master the DVD shows up but cannot be booted from. also how can i format an hfs drive to fat 32 under windows? please help keir -- religion is the opium of the masses Marx From jason.cormie@wormwood666.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 04 23:49:58 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 23:49:58 +0000 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 188qyk-0003vl-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 23:49:58 +0000 Received: from wormwood666.demon.co.uk ([80.177.7.229] helo=there) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 188qyj-00016s-0X for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 23:49:57 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jason Cormie To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Dundee] bootable DVD X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Nov 4 23:50:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 23:50:16 +0000 fdisk should wipe out your partition, if not we use a program called "slate" which writes 0 to every bit on the disk, shafting everything I'd check jumpers again, some models have a master /slave setting and a single master setting . On Monday 04 Nov 2002 8:52 pm, you coughed up: > could some one help me? this isnt strictly a linux problem so here goes; I > have recently purchased a DVD drive but i cant seem to boot from it i have > set the jumper to master and the jumper of my old cdrom to slave but now > the DVD drive cant be detected by my bios. when i leave the cdrom in > master the DVD shows up but cannot be booted from. also how can i format > an hfs drive to fat 32 under windows? > > please help > > keir -- Jason Cormie From jaga58@blueyonder.co.uk Mon Nov 04 21:54:08 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:54:08 +0000 Received: from pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.121] helo=blueyonder.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 188pAe-0002In-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:54:08 +0000 Received: from pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:54:08 +0000 Received: from jaga58-amd2200 (unverified [80.195.1.149]) by pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:54:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3DC6EC79.000001.01404@jaga58-amd2200> Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_1IN2QL80000000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1750660) From: "Joh Adamson" References: X-FID: 693AEB67-A4D5-11D4-9134-005004BFAA41 X-FVER: X-FIT: X-FCOL: X-FCAT: X-FDIS: X-BG: <> X-BGT: repeat X-BGC: #080873 X-BGPX: 0px X-BGPY: 0px X-ASN: D1A62FB0-2B28-11D4-BA28-0050DAC68030 X-ASNF: 0 X-ASH: D1A62FB0-2B28-11D4-BA28-0050DAC68030 X-ASHF: 1 X-AN: C958D3B0-2BF0-11D4-BA28-0050DAC68030 X-ANF: 0 X-AP: C958D3B0-2BF0-11D4-BA28-0050DAC68030 X-APF: 1 X-AD: BFF138F0-3EFC-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 X-ADF: 0 X-AUTO: X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: Subject: Re: [Dundee] bootable DVD Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: "Joh Adamson" List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 5 16:39:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:54:01 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) --------------Boundary-00=_1IN2QL80000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_1IN2LVC0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_1IN2LVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Possible change your DVD to the same ide cable as your hard drive and cha= nge jumper to slave, leave your cdrom on second ide cable and set to master, = as for changing to fat32 use partition magic 7 or 8=0D =0D John=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk=0D Date: 04 November 2002 20:53:10=0D To: T-LUG mail list=0D Subject: [Dundee] bootable DVD=0D =0D could some one help me? this isnt strictly a linux problem so here goes; = I have recently purchased a DVD drive but i cant seem to boot from it i hav= e set the jumper to master and the jumper of my old cdrom to slave but now = the DVD drive cant be detected by my bios. when i leave the cdrom in master t= he DVD shows up but cannot be booted from. also how can i format an hfs driv= e to fat 32 under windows?=0D =0D please help =0D =0D keir=0D -- =0D religion is the opium of the masses Marx=0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D Dundee mailing list=0D Dundee@lists.lug.org.uk=0D http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee=0D =2E --------------Boundary-00=_1IN2LVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D =0A

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Today's Topics: 1. RE: MOM 1 - 03/11/2002 (Bergdahl, Carin) 2. Hello to Dundee and Moray! (Mark McRitchie) 3. Re: MOM 1 - 03/11/2002 (Aidan Karley) 4. Local linux-using businesses, "Interesting Times" (Aidan Karley) --__--__-- Message: 1 Subject: RE: [AberLUG] MOM 1 - 03/11/2002 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:19:05 -0000 From: "Bergdahl, Carin" To: Reply-To: lug@arricc.net Either is fine, but could we have a meeting-time, not just a general "see you there!" for the fair? I'm not a regular visitor by any means, and it would be detrimental to my home-life to bring home much more "stuff". :-) Cabe. >-----Original Message----- >From: Aidan Karley [mailto:aidan@karley.org] > >In article=20 >,=20 >Mark McRitchie wrote: >> MM - is it worth having a lug-announce mailing list? >> > I wouldn't think so. There's only 4 that we are likely=20 >to impact=20 >on. > =20 > I think the main outstanding issue is whether we should be=20 >trying to have the meetings mid-week or at the weekends, and if the=20 >co-ordination with the computer fairs is a good idea. I can see good=20 >grounds for having it mid-week, particularly for those working in=20 >Aberdeen but living out of town. But the opposite agrement can also be=20 >applied to doing it in concert with the computer fairs:=20 >there's "stuff"=20 >we all need to get from time to time (AT power supply and a couple of=20 >odd cables were my needs on Sunday) , and there's interesting oddities=20 >to be collected (7-off Z88 terminals [battery-powered, RS232=20 >terminals]=20 >for a tenner!). Except when I've been out of town, I've not missed one=20 >for years. > Besides, it *has* worked. Always a good point. > OK, people anyone got any objections to coordinating=20 >things like=20 >this? > The one issue that might come up is if the fair in=20 >early January=20 >is skipped, because people are expected to be skint and stuffed with=20 >turkey. Their website doesn't look forward beyond December. I'll drop=20 >them an e-mail and report back. > =20 > =20 >--=20 > Aidan Karley, > Aberdeen, Scotland > Written at Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:46 GMT, but posted much later. > Present loc.: 57=BA10'11"N, 02=BA08'43"W (sub-tropical Aberdeen), = 0.021233 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Lug mailing list >Lug@arricc.net >http://www.arricc.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:27:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark McRitchie To: lug@arricc.net Subject: [AberLUG] Hello to Dundee and Moray! Reply-To: lug@arricc.net Hello! After taking to the guys that run the lists for Dundee and Moray LUGs, digests of the Aberdeen LUG list will get posted to the other lists, as we're fairly close together geographically. Hopefully we'll be talking enough nonsense at meetings to inspire some wanderings in our direction! Regards, Mark. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:30:37 GMT To: lug@arricc.net Subject: Re: [AberLUG] MOM 1 - 03/11/2002 From: Aidan Karley Reply-To: lug@arricc.net In article , Carin Bergdahl wrote: > Either is fine, but could we have a meeting-time, > not just a general "see you there!" for the fair? > The nominal times for the fair are 10:00 to 15:00. I'd say to meet at [insert name of pub with meeting room] 16:00 and expect about 2 hours LUG meeting (½ hour talk; ½ hour Q+A about the talk; 1 hour padding) so the SO/CWCM [*] can have food on the table for 18:30. Of course, if you want to stay on at the boozer ... In practice, Mark and I bumped into each other at about 14:00 at the fair, picked up some "stuff" (I've just finished soldering up a couple of "suspect device" leads with bits I got there - one for HandyAndy next time I see ya, loon. Thanks for the PSU.) and ambled up the road to a convenient pub, so we probably started to talk seriously at about 16:00. I think the times work reasonably well. Most of the places we were considering as possible meeting rooms are at the east end of town, purely because they'll be within walking distance of the Beach. Thinking about the needs of pub management people, we'd need to have made a decision as to which place is most appropriate at least a week in advance. [That's Mark's excuse to go to the pub tonight!] [*] SO/CWCM = Significant Other/ Cooking Washing Cleaning Machine - the latest in home technology for your fully modernised cave. -- Aidan Karley, Aberdeen, Scotland Written at Tue, 05 Nov 2002 13:30 GMT, but posted much later. Present loc.: 57º10'11"N, 02º08'43"W (sub-tropical Aberdeen), 0.021233 --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 01:30:53 GMT To: AberLug Mailing list From: Aidan Karley Subject: [AberLUG] Local linux-using businesses, "Interesting Times" Reply-To: lug@arricc.net In article <001001c25fe0$ff4b8e90$82037ad5@zakalwe>, Andrew Craven wrote: > Can we do this without paying for it? [Subject was advertising the meetings] > Does anyone know of any linux-using > businesses in Aberdeen area we can contact, to see if we can peak their > interest? > I'm still working on collating things, including a list I got from the Linux Counter, but there are several for certain. I'm just handling an email address for the Rowett Research Institute up in Bucksburn; I know a number are in use at the University; a number of departments at RGU use Linux extensively; there are 18 others on the list from Linux Counter who say they're using Linux at work. For what it's worth, that source has expanded my original 9-strong list to a stock of 46 (of whom 3 were on the original list). That's a big jump in potential resource. Well thought to Mark for digging it up - I'd forgotten that I'd registered (and I've forgotten my password !). I'm not publishing the list yet, because some of the people might object to their info being culled in this way (if I can do it, a spammer can do it). Once I've tracked down as many as possible I'll bring them up to the list. Busy with the phone book just now. -- Aidan Karley, Aberdeen, Scotland Written at Wed, 06 Nov 2002 00:09 GMT, but posted much later. Present loc.: 57º10'11"N, 02º08'43"W (sub-tropical Aberdeen), 0.021233 --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Lug mailing list Lug@arricc.net http://www.arricc.net/mailman/listinfo/lug End of Lug Digest From killthegene@postmaster.co.uk Wed Nov 06 20:28:00 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:28:00 +0000 Received: from smtp8.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.118]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 189WmO-0008Fk-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:28:00 +0000 Received: from pmweb5.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.100]) by smtp8.uk1.bibliotech.net with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 189WmN-0006W3-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:27:59 +0000 Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb5.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA31823; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:27:59 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "Keir Lawson" To: T-LUG mail list X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: killthegene; Local time: Wed Nov 6 20:27:59 2002; Local host: pmweb5.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 80.225.51.219; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: [Dundee] thanks Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Nov 6 20:28:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:27:59 +0000 for the tip about fddisk! unfortunatley my harddrive ide cable wont stretch to where my dvd drive is. i have checked the jumpers and they are correct. however as well as master and slave there is also a cable select jumper. will this be any use? thanks keir -- religion is the opium of the masses Marx From rb@bitbucket.co.uk Wed Nov 06 22:43:31 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:43:31 +0000 Received: from pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.94] helo=blueyonder.co.uk) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 189YtW-0002EB-00 for dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:43:30 +0000 Received: from pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:43:30 +0000 Received: from bitbox2.bitbucket.lan (unverified [62.31.91.181]) by pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:43:30 +0000 Subject: Re: [Dundee] Lug digest, Vol 1 #10 - 4 msgs From: Rory Beaton To: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk In-Reply-To: <20021106062507.9333.96878.Mailman@cable.arricc.net> References: <20021106062507.9333.96878.Mailman@cable.arricc.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Message-Id: <1036622637.1830.25.camel@bitbox2.bitbucket.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Nov 6 22:44:01 2002 X-Original-Date: 06 Nov 2002 22:43:54 +0000 On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 06:25, lug-request@arricc.net wrote: > > After taking to the guys that run the lists for Dundee and Moray LUGs, > digests of the Aberdeen LUG list will get posted to the other lists, as > we're fairly close together geographically. Hmmmph...and when exactly was there to be consultation with the list members? Oh no...I forgot that the concept of "democratic process" has yet to dawn on the GNU generation! rb From lug-admin@arricc.net Thu Nov 07 06:28:24 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: dundee@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:28:24 +0000 Received: from cable.arricc.net ([212.18.240.197]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 189g9O-00009J-00 ; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:28:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=cable.arricc.net ident=list) by cable.arricc.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10 #1 (Debian)) id 189g78-0004HQ-00; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:26:02 +0000 Message-ID: <20021107062509.16298.11438.Mailman@cable.arricc.net> From: lug-request@arricc.net X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.11 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: lug@arricc.net X-BeenThere: lug@arricc.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Subject: [Dundee] Lug digest, Vol 1 #11 - 14 msgs Sender: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk Errors-To: dundee-admin@lists.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk Reply-To: dundee@lists.lug.org.uk X-Reply-To: lug@arricc.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Nov 7 16:18:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:25:09 +0000 Send Lug mailing list submissions to lug@arricc.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.arricc.net/mailman/listinfo/lug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lug-request@arricc.net You can reach the person managing the list at lug-admin@arricc.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Lug digest..." Aberdeen Linux User Group Digest. Lug@arricc.net http://www.arricc.net/mailman/listinfo/lug Today's Topics: 1. Re: MOM 1 - 03/11/2002 (Mark McRitchie) 2. Re: MOM 1 - 03/11/2002 (G Henry) 3. Paydirt List (Aidan Karley) 4. Gavin Henry - first respondent from the Linux Counter trawling (Aidan Karley) 5. Re: Gavin Henry - first respondent from the Linux Counter trawling (G) 6. Greetings and felicitations! (George Morrison) 7. Another Newbie (Vic Ayres) 8. Re: Gavin Henry - first respondent from the Linux Counter trawling (Mark McRitchie) 9. First Technical Questiong (Mark McRitchie) 10. Thanks for the invite (Andrew Fraser) 11. Engineering applications (Aidan Karley) 12. Buckie contingent - Moray LUG (Aidan Karley) 13. A voice from the student halls ... (Aidan Karley) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:35:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark McRitchie To: lug@arricc.net Subject: Re: [AberLUG] MOM 1 - 03/11/2002 Reply-To: lug@arricc.net > > 1]; use of the LUG.ORG.UK domain and services; > > - Ascertain domain aberdeen.lug.org.uk; availability > > of webspace > > in the .lug.org.uk domain; link existing webspace to material > > [blah].lug.org.uk; Action: MM Filled in the form on the lug.org.uk site. Nothing back yet. Have been on #linux on irc.lug.org.uk but mostly seems to be op's idling. Will try later if I don't hear anything back I'll be hassling people via email. > > -locations to consider, on the assumption of an > > association with > > the Computer Fair (Action in parentheses): Saltoun Arms Lounge(MM); > > East Neuk back room (MM); Blue Lamp (AK, the owner says he needs to > > check the diary for the weekend); MaCamerons (AK, there are no rooms > > outside of the normal 5; on Sundays footie might well be active; > > contact Barbera); Carlton (AK, looks like the upstairs room is now a > > flat); efforts will continue to foster town<->gown relations, > > so we can > > pilfer a seminar room once a month; Saltoun Arms no longer use their backroom, I got the impression that its sort of a storeroom/dust gathering area. And I've heard some really not so good reports from a variety of people about the East Neuk backroom... I'll check into a few other possibilities and report back! Regards, Mark. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: G Henry To: lug@arricc.net Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:41:45 -0000 Subject: Re: [AberLUG] MOM 1 - 03/11/2002 Reply-To: lug@arricc.net 11/6/02 4:35:06 PM, Mark McRitchie wrote: >> > 1]; use of the LUG.ORG.UK domain and services; >> > - Ascertain domain aberdeen.lug.org.uk; availability >> > of webspace >> > in the .lug.org.uk domain; link existing webspace to material >> > [blah].lug.org.uk; Action: MM > >Filled in the form on the lug.org.uk site. Nothing back yet. >Have been on #linux on irc.lug.org.uk but mostly seems to be op's idling. >Will try later if I don't hear anything back I'll be hassling people via >email. > >> > -locations to consider, on the assumption of an >> > association with >> > the Computer Fair (Action in parentheses): Saltoun Arms Lounge(MM); >> > East Neuk back room (MM); Blue Lamp (AK, the owner says he needs to >> > check the diary for the weekend); MaCamerons (AK, there are no rooms >> > outside of the normal 5; on Sundays footie might well be active; >> > contact Barbera); Carlton (AK, looks like the upstairs room is now a >> > flat); efforts will continue to foster town<->gown relations, >> > so we can >> > pilfer a seminar room once a month; > >Saltoun Arms no longer use their backroom, I got the impression that its >sort of a storeroom/dust gathering area. > >And I've heard some really no