[dundee] Database front end - any ideas?

Barry Carr barry at benericht.co.uk
Sat Feb 9 20:07:59 GMT 2008


Jen,

If this is your first exposure to Databases then I personally wouldn't start with Oracle. If you 
want something that is full featured, has a low overhead, easy to deploy and has good support then I 
would recommend Firebird. (go for 2.1 release candidate). If you don't need triggers and stored 
procedure and just need something simple, then I'd recommend SQLite -its most SQL92 compliant and 
can be embedded in the application, similar to Access. Both of the above will run on Linux, OS X and 
  Windows

http://www.firebirdsql.org/
http://www.sqlite.org

Cheers
Barry

<3 wrote:
> Thanks Gordon, I'll check with my group on Monday and see what sort of 
> materials we need :)
> 
> On Feb 8, 2008 5:07 PM, gordon dunlop <astrozubenel at googlemail.com 
> <mailto:astrozubenel at googlemail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     I used version 9 of Oracle as version 10g takes up a lot of resources.
>     I have also thick textbooks on oracle & databases. If you want, I will
>     them in next Thursday if people want to borrow them over the next
>     month.
> 
>     Gordon
> 
>     On 08/02/2008, <3 <sauntering.with.scissors at gmail.com
>     <mailto:sauntering.with.scissors at gmail.com>> wrote:
>      > she did not! ..sneaky secrets!
>      >
>      > thanks! ill have a google for it
>      >
>      >
>      > On Feb 8, 2008 5:00 PM, gordon dunlop
>     <astrozubenel at googlemail.com <mailto:astrozubenel at googlemail.com>>
>     wrote:
>      >
>      > > Is the Lecturer Petra? Did she tell you that there is a free Oracle
>      > > download, Windows and Linux.
>      > >
>      > > Gordon
>      > >
>      > >
>      > >
>      > >
>      > > On 08/02/2008, <3 <sauntering.with.scissors at gmail.com
>     <mailto:sauntering.with.scissors at gmail.com>>
>      > wrote:
>      > > > Lots of great suggestions! thanks!
>      > > >
>      > > > I think its the SQL behind the scenes and documentation
>     that's being
>      > > > assessed.. lecturer isnt too fussed about the front end. Her
>     suggestion
>      > is
>      > > > Access (blegh) but said we could use something else if we like.
>      > > >
>      > > > We only have 3 or 4 weeks to complete it, so a web interface
>     looks like
>      > the
>      > > > way to go on this one.
>      > > >
>      > > >
>      > > > On Feb 8, 2008 4:32 PM, Rick Moynihan
>     <rick.moynihan at gmail.com <mailto:rick.moynihan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>      > > >
>      > > > >
>      > > > > On 08/02/2008, Barry Carr <barry at benericht.co.uk
>     <mailto:barry at benericht.co.uk>> wrote:
>      > > > > > Hi Jen,
>      > > > > >
>      > > > > > > Hi guys,
>      > > > > > >
>      > > > > > > A bunch of us have a database project to do and I was
>     wondering if
>      > > > > > > anyone had any ideas for what we could use as a front end?
>      > > > > > >
>      > > > > > > We were thinking of maybe a having web interface. I
>     believe the
>      > back
>      > > > end
>      > > > > > > has to be Oracle. Preferably cross platform (mixture of
>     windows,
>      > linux
>      > > > > > > and OS X developers), and also if it requires an
>     install it should
>      > be
>      > > > > > > something we can all get our hands on easily.
>      > > > > >
>      > > > > > There's quite a lot to choose from. If you're set on a
>     web front end
>      > > > then you might want to try
>      > > > > > Ruby-On-Rails. Free to download and deploy and its got
>     quite good
>      > tool
>      > > > support Netbeans 6.0, (XP,
>      > > > > > Linux, OS X - runs on the JVM) and TextMate (OS X). Rails has
>      > excellent
>      > > > DB support but may struggle
>      > > > > > if you're expecting a lot of visitors to the site.
>     Deploying a rails
>      > app
>      > > > can also be a bit of a pain
>      > > > > > too. There are also a couple of JVM alternatives, like
>     Grails (Ruby
>      > on
>      > > > rails like framework for
>      > > > > > Groovy) and JRuby-On-Rails (Netbeans has direct support
>     for this
>      > too).
>      > > > > >
>      > > > > > If you want a desktop app then you can choose between
>     Mono (although
>      > I'm
>      > > > not sure how good its DB
>      > > > > > support is) or the JVM. If you go for the latter then I
>     wouldn't use
>      > > > Java but have a look at Groovy
>      > > > > > or Scala instead. Groovy and Scala should be able to use
>     all Java
>      > > > libraries and frameworks that are
>      > > > > > currently available and both of these languages are waaay
>     ahead of
>      > Java
>      > > > esp. Scala. If you use the
>      > > > > > JVM you might also want to take a look at Hibernate which
>     is an
>      > > > Object-relational mapping framework.
>      > > > > >
>      > > > > > There is loads more to choose from but the above should
>     point you at
>      > the
>      > > > current mainstream.
>      > > > >
>      > > > > Now, now, Barry I'm not sure any of those other than
>     perhaps Rails and
>      > > > > Hibernate are mainstream! :-)  Sure, they're all generating
>     a lot of
>      > > > > interest amongst tech bloggers and the like and have many
>     compelling
>      > > > > reasons for adoption but they're definitely not
>     mainstream... They're
>      > > > > just fashionable to talk about :-)
>      > > > >
>      > > > > --
>      > > > >
>      > > > > Rick Moynihan
>      > > > > rick.moynihan at gmail.com <mailto:rick.moynihan at gmail.com>
>      > > > > http://sourcesmouth.co.uk/blog/
>      > > > >
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