now, now boys, don't be getting all upset about things, and breaking your keyboards.<br><br>I see both your points actually..<br><br>multiple choice questions test your memory, not the way<br>that you problem solve.<br><br>You'll find the cisco exams, test your actually doing, i.e<br>real machines, with real problems that you have to fix.<br><br>I think both testing methods are valid, and you both have<br>valid arguments, but hey, simmer down a bit, or I'll have<br>to delete both your kernels... ;-)..<br><br>it's hard, perhaps we should make our own exam up, which<br>is vendor neutral???<br><br>back in the 90's I used to run every flavour of unix, at the same time, it was a nightmare, it was unix on every machine, but the way you administered it was different...it did my head in, that's why I changed to NT!! how wrong could I have been...but at least you had the same environment where every you logged in (even it it was rubbish).<br><br>so, distro's to me are kinda the
devil, they all try to do things<br>differently, all have different political, business and ethical aims..perhaps one day, all linux operating systems will recombine into one big happy OS!!!! then again..perhaps not!<br><br>LSB is a good start...<br><br><br>but to sum up, I know there's a lot of passion on this list, and I can see it from when I talk to people, don't let get all upset over technical issues...remember people, everything you do when you sit down at a computer 'DOES NOT EXIST'<br><br>once you work that out, then you can go a buy an upgrade to vista ;-)<br><br>Laters,<br>Lee<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><b><i>Kris Davidson <davidson.kris@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> I really should just let it go but I feel like I've been<br>misinterpreted or I've put my point across wrong:<br><br>gordon dunlop wrote:<br>> Let me give you an overview of
the situation Kris. The Abertay Linux<br>> Society consists of students, professional IT people and general Linux<br>> enthusiasts. There is a great mixture of experience, age, race,<br>> religion, creed & Linux distribution preferences, the vast majority are<br>> also Taylug members. We are not just a Linux group (talking about Linux<br>> things) but are also a social group. We act like a community where<br>> knowledge and friendship is shared irrespective of experience.<br><br>um... I agree, its a given there was never any argument or confusion<br>over this fact.<br><br>> The LPIC certification is an opportunity for the society to help each other out<br>> both professionally and personally using a non-distribution specific<br>> training program, maintaining unity and a community spirit at a<br>> reasonable financial cost. The certification will benefit both new and<br>> experienced members alike.<br><br>My main point about LPIC was
why, its not the easiest, cheapest or<br>most well known. I just wanted to know what discussion went on about<br>it and ultimately why it was chosen.<br><br>> will now stop being diplomatic in order to<br>> get my point across. You say you like the practical model used by Redhat<br>> and Novell with hands-on actual problem solving and troubleshooting?<br>> What the f**ck have I been doing for the past few years with Fedora and<br>> openSuSe? Other Taylug members will be probably doing the same. We all<br>> use Linux on our workstations and/or laptops, tell some of our Gentoo<br>> users that they need hands-on problem solving in Linux, what planet do<br>> you live on?<br><br>Okay here, I was not making a cheap dig and I apologise if it was<br>interpreted as such. My harping was mostly to do with certification<br>models. I was not saying that members, or users of any distro don't<br>have a variety of skills, I was also not endorsing the companies
that<br>use the practical model, I just felt the practical model would be<br>easier both in teaching and in passing.<br><br>> Yeah it would be good if there was a Linux Lab at Abertay,<br>> not for Linux certification purposes, but for real Linux hacking. We are<br>> not Microsoft people so do not compare the Microsoft certification model<br>> with Linux certification,<br><br>I do not consider Microsoft intrinsically evil and so this was not a<br>dirty analogy again I apologise if it was interpreted as such. I used<br>Microsoft as I believed it was the best known certification I could of<br>just as easily said CompTIA; ideology aside there are two<br>certification models.<br><br>> we Linux people really care about our<br>> operating system. I am sorry if I coming over a bit sharp Kris but we<br>> are not fools so do not treat us as such.<br><br>I was not treating anyone as a fool or denigrating the knowledge of<br>others and once again I apologise if I
was interpreted as such.<br><br>Kris<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>dundee GNU/Linux Users Group mailing list<br>dundee@lists.lug.org.uk http://dundee.lug.org.uk<br>https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee<br>Chat on IRC, #tlug on dundee.lug.org.uk<br></blockquote><br><p> 
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