off topic nope went to sleep at like 6 i had everything planned out for the day from class to ms talk and had my asl shirt laied out but just couldnt be arsed too tired<br><br>on topic <br><span class="q"><br></span><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
<div style="direction: ltr;">True,
but raising money for teachers must be easier than raising money for
laptops. How do I know? Well, take any subset of the population and its
got to be much easier to explain to them how teachers will help improve
education than it is to explain how laptops will improve education -
intuition is on your side with that arguement. Having said that, we
have an OLPC scheme, we dont' have a teachers sans frontiers scheme so
its right that people support it.</div></blockquote><div><br>1. true but false. explaining concepts is not having ur foot in the door so to speek. people donate money when they r tuched thats why u get to c so many starvibng children on tele (leving out the sensationalsim) cause otherwise poeple wouldnt care. apart from the buisness model of sides
e.g. selling to cuntries. this is the perfect geek fundrais i.e. u get a laptop for 200 dollars. to get teachers u would have to thing of another angle<br><br>2. rural is now not nessecarly rural e.g. wifi antennas. i mean i like that africa just shits on copyrigth and they produces it themselves even ms products.
<br><br>3. .net is nice but i cant imagine primy school children starting to use it and compare the ouptut of 'linx' realted projects which dont cost anything is insuficient for this kind of development <br><br>4. flash but that was explained
<br><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote"><div style="direction: ltr;">That's a neat idea but, unfortunatly,
things are a little more complicated than that. Take Zimbabwe for
example, it used to be the bread basket of Africa and a relatively
prosperous country, and yet the current government there has totally
wrecked the country's economy. So we can see from this example that
pumping money into a country is not necessarily a good idea, you must
ensure that political backing and stability are also in place. I'm not
sure aid agencies have the cabability to do that and the current
situation with Zimbabwe has shown that, often, other governments are
slow to pressurise inginious governments to get to a place where the
type of aid that you speak of above could be given.</div></blockquote><div><br>5. thats a given but explain that to politicians they dont like what they dont like and they have better ways of getting to it then everybody else and they dont really care bout other people
<br><br>6. a cathedral way for this project could never work and would take up far too much money. ms platforms are alrigth but not custom designed at least not to this standard <br><span class="q"><br></span><blockquote>
<div style="direction: ltr;">If
the OLPC is designed to help those in especially rural areas, with
little or no contact with more populated areas, how does OLPC software
get from the hard drives of those in the more populated areas to the
hard drives of the people you speak of? I know the OLPC has peer to
peer network capabilities, but the software on the hard drives of your
peers is always going to be a (very) small subset of the total software
available. What do you do if you want a title that your reachable peers
don't have?</div></blockquote><br>7. dont forget that the original idea of book pc has changed an now they also want t implements servers in each school to link them up. we are discussing this project from a wwrong stand point
<br><br>8. getting teachers is complicated and a long term investment. have to educated people sned them to places and hope they dont fuck off because they can get better paied jobs. the best i dea for that already exsists. but a child as in u pay for the schooling
<br></div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">I don't think anyone on this list was criticising the OLPC project per
se, I certainly wasn't. I don't think its a bad idea, just not the best
use of the money.<br></blockquote><br>9. how not. 100 dollar laptop is the cheapest and best of its kind i have seen well ever <br><br><span class="q"><br></span><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
<div style="direction: ltr;">There are schemes to send teachers to developing countries (it is a<br>common gap year activity).</div></blockquote><br>10. sweet but u would have to do it with finished educated teachers so i.e
. send them off for a year ehrn they could work in this country<br><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">Of course, but (hopefully) there will be new software added to the
catalogue of available software at regular intervals. Very soon the
first laptops will become "out of date" and after time, there will
(again hopefully) be so much software that it can't all be housed on
the hard drive of just one machine. At that point you have to have a
process whereby new software can be cascaded down to even the most
remote village. If you don't have such a scheme then you run the risk
of creating a two tier community - those with access to the central
repository (though this repository could easily be distributed) and
those who do not.<br></blockquote><br>11. yerah but hopefully they have some kind of backwards compatibility i.e. u can still read .txt files on every machine i ever had. and as long as they can read it they evolve <br><span class="q">
<br></span><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote"><div style="direction: ltr;">Unlikely in rural areas. The reason the OLPC is hand cranked is 'cos a lot of these places don't even have electricity.
</div></blockquote><div><br>12. there is electrisity but kids cant afford it. and parents dont need to pay more<br> <br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
This is a good idea and could form the backbone of the cascade process required above.</blockquote><div><br>13. yup<br> <br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
True!</blockquote><div><br>14. that would have been better say with each laptop u pay 20 dollars for teachers pay or somn like that but when u start there u need to pay school uniforms cause some student cane go to school cause they cant afford one of them and on and on. its not 42 but a start
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