Thanks Gordon, I'll check with my group on Monday and see what sort of materials we need :)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 8, 2008 5:07 PM, gordon dunlop <<a href="mailto:astrozubenel@googlemail.com">astrozubenel@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I used version 9 of Oracle as version 10g takes up a lot of resources.<br>I have also thick textbooks on oracle & databases. If you want, I will<br>
them in next Thursday if people want to borrow them over the next<br>month.<br><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>Gordon<br><br>On 08/02/2008, <3 <<a href="mailto:sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com">sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> she did not! ..sneaky secrets!<br>><br>> thanks! ill have a google for it<br>><br>><br>> On Feb 8, 2008 5:00 PM, gordon dunlop <<a href="mailto:astrozubenel@googlemail.com">astrozubenel@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>> > Is the Lecturer Petra? Did she tell you that there is a free Oracle<br>> > download, Windows and Linux.<br>> ><br>> > Gordon<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On 08/02/2008, <3 <<a href="mailto:sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com">sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>> > > Lots of great suggestions! thanks!<br>> > ><br>> > > I think its the SQL behind the scenes and documentation that's being<br>> > > assessed.. lecturer isnt too fussed about the front end. Her suggestion<br>
> is<br>> > > Access (blegh) but said we could use something else if we like.<br>> > ><br>> > > We only have 3 or 4 weeks to complete it, so a web interface looks like<br>> the<br>> > > way to go on this one.<br>
> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > On Feb 8, 2008 4:32 PM, Rick Moynihan <<a href="mailto:rick.moynihan@gmail.com">rick.moynihan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > On 08/02/2008, Barry Carr <<a href="mailto:barry@benericht.co.uk">barry@benericht.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > > > Hi Jen,<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > > Hi guys,<br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > > A bunch of us have a database project to do and I was wondering if<br>
> > > > > > anyone had any ideas for what we could use as a front end?<br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > > We were thinking of maybe a having web interface. I believe the<br>
> back<br>> > > end<br>> > > > > > has to be Oracle. Preferably cross platform (mixture of windows,<br>> linux<br>> > > > > > and OS X developers), and also if it requires an install it should<br>
> be<br>> > > > > > something we can all get our hands on easily.<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > There's quite a lot to choose from. If you're set on a web front end<br>
> > > then you might want to try<br>> > > > > Ruby-On-Rails. Free to download and deploy and its got quite good<br>> tool<br>> > > support Netbeans 6.0, (XP,<br>> > > > > Linux, OS X - runs on the JVM) and TextMate (OS X). Rails has<br>
> excellent<br>> > > DB support but may struggle<br>> > > > > if you're expecting a lot of visitors to the site. Deploying a rails<br>> app<br>> > > can also be a bit of a pain<br>
> > > > > too. There are also a couple of JVM alternatives, like Grails (Ruby<br>> on<br>> > > rails like framework for<br>> > > > > Groovy) and JRuby-On-Rails (Netbeans has direct support for this<br>
> too).<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > If you want a desktop app then you can choose between Mono (although<br>> I'm<br>> > > not sure how good its DB<br>> > > > > support is) or the JVM. If you go for the latter then I wouldn't use<br>
> > > Java but have a look at Groovy<br>> > > > > or Scala instead. Groovy and Scala should be able to use all Java<br>> > > libraries and frameworks that are<br>> > > > > currently available and both of these languages are waaay ahead of<br>
> Java<br>> > > esp. Scala. If you use the<br>> > > > > JVM you might also want to take a look at Hibernate which is an<br>> > > Object-relational mapping framework.<br>> > > > ><br>
> > > > > There is loads more to choose from but the above should point you at<br>> the<br>> > > current mainstream.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Now, now, Barry I'm not sure any of those other than perhaps Rails and<br>
> > > > Hibernate are mainstream! :-) Sure, they're all generating a lot of<br>> > > > interest amongst tech bloggers and the like and have many compelling<br>> > > > reasons for adoption but they're definitely not mainstream... They're<br>
> > > > just fashionable to talk about :-)<br>> > > ><br>> > > > --<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Rick Moynihan<br>> > > > <a href="mailto:rick.moynihan@gmail.com">rick.moynihan@gmail.com</a><br>
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