How about Sabayon? It's gentoo based is it not and it definitely has all the necessary multimedia/'restricted' codecs/drivers etc. bundled.<br><br>If I remember it used to be a bit bleeding edge but it's just hit version 4 so perhaps it's a bit more stable nowadays.<br>
<br>It has KDE :-) lol.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/2/25 Robert Ladyman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:it@file-away.co.uk">it@file-away.co.uk</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I think I have finally had enough of OpenSuse, discouraged by things like<br>
refusing to fix Network manager's conflict with ppp and marking it as a<br>
"WONTFIX" [fx offstage: sounds of hysterical laughter]; removal of Webmin,<br>
Realplayer, kjobviewer; smashing /etc/* config files and/or magically<br>
generating them from some gui tool without telling you where THAT tool has its<br>
config files [fx offstage: sounds of crying, smashing of keyboard]; making it<br>
hard to derive a new distro; ignoring simple user requests to fix minor bugs;<br>
bizarre problems with HAL (also known as the Hardware Obstruction Layer) and<br>
putting the "F" into "fdi"; not even having the GIMP in the live-cd...grrr.<br>
<br>
As I'm too lazy^H^H^H busy to do any research for myself (and seem to be a bit<br>
busy writing some gubbins about Squid for a bunch of sandal-wearing<br>
linuxistas) and it's been a bad day AND the gout is playing up again<br>
[ibuprofen and cocodamil for lunch, my favourite] perhaps some serious and<br>
ideally, not-so-serious suggestions from you all would help.<br>
<br>
My URS for a new distro is:-<br>
<br>
- Must not commit any of the above distro-crimes;<br>
- Must be KDE-friendly (Gnome is gnot for me);<br>
- Must not be Ubuntu-derived (so kiss my shiny plastic mouse, Azmodie et al);<br>
- Must have reasonably good package management (i.e. not like Linux From<br>
Scratch*)...<br>
- ...and that really means probably NOT rpm/hell package management;<br>
- Should be able to reasonably easily derive new distros / modified distros<br>
from it;<br>
- Should allow for installation of so-called 'restricted' or patent-encumbered<br>
software.<br>
- Ideally, would be easily usable by she-who-must-be-obeyed / DFU's as well;<br>
Should be upgradable in-place**;<br>
<br>
Does this just leave Slackware and Gentoo?<br>
TayLix? TheLinuxSociety.iso? OldGitix? Suggestions, serious or otherwise<br>
welcome (only physically possible ones from you *buntu users, please).<br>
<br>
[Sits back, sips coffee, awaits flames]<br>
<br>
<br>
* For those who don't know, LFS has the ultimate techie package management<br>
solution. It hasn't got one.<br>
** Yes, I too have suffered from the Mandrake/riva/OpenSuse "is this an<br>
upgrade, if so abandon all hope of it working" installation check-box which<br>
basically results in having to install the system twice. Tra la la.<br>
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