hi dundo luggers. :)<br><br>to respond to donna's inquiry regarding artists and floss...<br><br>well, speaking as an artist,<br><br>i "get" FLOSS ideology/methodology.<br><br>but i also see the differences between art and software, and why there may be reluctance to release works of art under copyleftishness. software can be so much more sterile and pragmatic, where works of art often have an even greater sentimental preciousness. artists can often be quite emotionally involved with their creations, where often, software is there for the practical benefits it confers. thats not to say software is excluded from being artistic though.<br>
<br>music seems to be leading the way a little further ahead than the visual arts, and i've no idea really where the rest (writing for example) fall into the picture.<br>services like <a href="http://www.jamendo.com/en/">http://www.jamendo.com/en/</a> (which i intend to get around to uploading loads of my stuff to) show how the principles so familiar to software creations can be applied to music creations.<br>
<br>i think alot of artists are still stuck on bill gate's open letter to hobbyists from the 70s ( <a href="http://www.blinkenlights.com/classiccmp/gateswhine.html">http://www.blinkenlights.com/classiccmp/gateswhine.html</a> ), and i know why, the need to eat food etc, and food being most readily available only with money, is quite the reinforcement of this.<br>
<br>creative commons may think they are helping, but its a complex mine field that can be a bit off-putting to those who have a sole focus in life to create (not to navigate legalities).<br><br>it's something i'm striving towards solving, by cutting out the necessary obliged financial outgoings, so that art can once again become detatched from profit motive, and all the great works of art, both complete and unfinished, horded by artists all over for sake of their future potential financial riches, can become liberated and enter the public view, as well as the re-churning of ideas as best represented/protected by the likes of the GPL and FLOSSology.<br>
<br>now i realise you may have only been meaning the topic here to be the software side of it, but i see no foul in highlighting that the product of artist's creative endeavors could one day be as well shared and distributed, bazaar style, as software.<br>
<br>"which one is it?"<br><br>both. you already had your answer. some get it, some dont yet. some have all their stuff released freely in recognition that copyright is not only a farce, but illegal. some have never heard of richard stallman, and dont yet realise that everytime they view a copyrighted content on a computer they are "breaking copyright".<br>
<br>as powerful an allure photoshop has with all it's bells n whistles, i still understand that the race is won by open source's exponentials, leaving the limitations of proprietary in the dust, and so i stick with the gimp. (excellent link from gordon the other day btw.)<br>
better to be onboard earlier methinks, rather than waste time keeping one'self hog tied to being dumbed down by proprietary treating the end users like helpless noobs who need to keep suckling gratefully on the proprietor's machinations (however alluring they may be).<br>
<br>i actually tried going back to photoshop for a little taster recently after hearing my cousin rave on about it's wonders, and to my surprise, i felt more at a loss for the features it didnt have than marveled at what it did. * cant help but think of sugar coated turds * so i stick with the gimp. no point either forking out hundreds, or breaking the law, just for a couple of features, which are only likely to show up in gimp in a better developed form in good time. also, besides having a plateful to deal with already, theres nothing holding me back from learning what i need to to add these features myself, gaining total control over my tool, tailoring it to my exacting needs. oh yes, i "get" FLOSS. full intent to be a greater contributor. full appreciation for the contributions of others to our collective tools.<br>
<br>anyway, that's about enough rambling on for now. :)<br><br>-Digit.<br><br>ps, i still have an idea on the backburner for a lightweight artist's distribution based on Slitaz, which i might have actually got around to completing had my lenovo x60 not needed to go to the shop to be fixed again.<br>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br>pps, ya just have no idea how amazing blender is until you get through some tutorials. wow. seriously, wow. (that coming from someone trained in softimage|xsi)<br><br>2009/5/8 Donna Holford-Lovell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d.holford-lovell@abertay.ac.uk">d.holford-lovell@abertay.ac.uk</a>></span><br>
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I have been thinking .... Which sometimes hurts.... You may know that I have been looking at the ideology/methodology of FLOSS and applying this to an art practice. I have had some excellent responses but I am still getting the impression that the art world are just not getting it. <br>
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Obviously there are differing cultures and philosophies within the term FLOSS but both could offer a very new and productive way of working within the art sector. Some in the art sector say that it already exists in the practice and from the other camp that artists just don’t understand. ???? My question is ‘which one is it’?<br>
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I was wondering if anyone was up for helping to organise a small series of talks that would cover this area and go someway to clarifying it. Try to come at from the philosophical side, yes the product is important but really try to understand its process. How can we learn and implement it to other areas. <br>
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We can run it at the HMC, maybe as part of the Linux meetings? Happy to look at providing funding etc ..... Be good to hear your thoughts <br>
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