<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">looks like i'll dump gnome, i'm sure the a good reason why it want to fsync all the time,<br>but for laptop it's just no good.<br><br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 18/10/09, Antony D'Auria <i><antoony@nekorb.co.uk></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Antony D'Auria <antony@nekorb.co.uk><br>Subject: Re: [dundee] laptop mode power saving<br>To: "Tayside Linux User Group" <dundee@lists.lug.org.uk><br>Date: Sunday, 18 October, 2009, 6:48 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1813055842">My netbook does run like it's on speed with Arch & Openbox :)
Battery life great. SRIron runs nice & quick, although not very configurable it does the job for just a bit of general browsing.<br><br>
Ant<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/10/18 Nicholas Walker <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tel0seh@googlemail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=tel0seh@googlemail.com">tel0seh@googlemail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
remove those bloated UI's and run openbox instead :D<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Lee Hughes <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk">toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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hehe.. i suppose i could, just trying to get extended battery life. tee hee..<br><br>it's seems to be working a little better now.... looks like gnome is full a fsync's<br><br>fsync's seem to wake my system up!!!<br>
<br>how do i get rid of them.<br><br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 18/10/09, Jennifer higgins <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com">sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
<br>From: Jennifer higgins <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com">sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [dundee] laptop mode power saving<div><br>To: "Tayside Linux User Group" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dundee@lists.lug.org.uk" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dundee@lists.lug.org.uk">dundee@lists.lug.org.uk</a>><br>
</div>Date: Sunday, 18 October, 2009, 3:20 PM<div><div></div><div><br><br><div>oh just power the laptop down you big geek ;)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/10/18 Lee Hughes <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://mc/compose?to=toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk">toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span><br>
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hmm. well it seems that firefox writes one more file which is not to it's cache or<br>it's profile...it's...<br><br>lsof | grep firefox | grep tmp<br><br>firefox 27357 user 72u REG 8,1 0 6177091 /var/tmp/etilqs_2SWFrJKOPJgPeet (deleted)<br>
<br>etilqs seemed to be sqlite backwards?<br><br>bizzare.... any idea's what that is or how to relocated it to my ramdisk?<br><br>Cheers,<br>Lee<br><br><br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 18/10/09, Lee Hughes <i><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://mc/compose?to=toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk">toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Lee Hughes <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://mc/compose?to=toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk">toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
Subject: [dundee] laptop mode power saving<br>
To:
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<tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign="top">Right,<br>
<br>has any got laptop mode working successfully , i'm trying to get my hard disk to spin down as long as possible, <br><br>i've been using a combination of lm-profile, iotop -o -d 10 -b<br><br>now, i've nailed fire fox from fsyncing all the time, that's improved things some what,<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23159573-Re-Make-Firefox-3x-more-responsive-with-a-simple-trick">http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23159573-Re-Make-Firefox-3x-more-responsive-with-a-simple-trick</a><br>
<br>it's also faster too boot!<br><br>however, my hard disk sleeps for about 2mins, i've zapped syslog and klog for testing,<br>so there
should be nothing on the system that should need to wake the disk for writing.<br><br>however, kkjournald is waking the disk up, (presumable to write the journal to disk)<br>but the file system is mounted with <br><br>/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,commit=600)<br>
<br>so, it should only commit every 10
mins, or when we run low on memory.<br><br> PID USER DISK READ DISK WRITE SWAPIN IO COMMAND<br> 807 root 0 B/s 5.54 K/s 0.00 % 0.00 % [kjournald]<br> 3911 user 0 B/s 0.40 K/s 0.00 % 0.00 % gnome-power-manager<br>
<br><br>oh,actually i wonder if it's the gnome power manager, how ironic.. looks like<br>the gnome power manager might be forcing a sync...<br><br>yes, it seems that a lot of gnome componets are doing a fsync, thus waking my disk<br>
up.. :-(<br><br>all i want is, while i'm not reading new data(i.e uncached data from disk) , i want<br>applications to write (but delay that write until I say, or a timeout value).<br><br>i think over use of the fsync call may be
answer, but i think there's more to it than that.<br><br>my harddrives now been dormant for 10mins.... spin down nirvarna has been reached.<br><br>looks like killing the gnome power meter has stopped the spin ups... now that's<br>
ironic.. any replacements? or shall i go and hack it.<br><br>i wonder if this would do ssd's good too.<br><br>thoughts?<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Lee<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></td></tr></tbody></table>
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