remove those bloated UI&#39;s and run openbox instead :D<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Lee Hughes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk">toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign="top">
hehe.. i suppose i could, just trying to get extended battery life. tee hee..<br><br>it&#39;s seems to be working a little better now.... looks like gnome is full a fsync&#39;s<br><br>fsync&#39;s seem to wake my system up!!!<br>
<br>how do i get rid of them.<br><br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 18/10/09, Jennifer higgins <i>&lt;<a href="mailto:sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com" target="_blank">sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
<br>From: Jennifer higgins &lt;<a href="mailto:sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com" target="_blank">sauntering.with.scissors@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [dundee] laptop mode power saving<div class="im"><br>To: &quot;Tayside Linux User Group&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dundee@lists.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">dundee@lists.lug.org.uk</a>&gt;<br>
</div>Date: Sunday, 18 October, 2009, 3:20 PM<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div>oh just power the laptop down you big geek ;)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/10/18 Lee Hughes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign="top">

hmm. well it seems that firefox writes one more file which is not to it&#39;s cache or<br>it&#39;s profile...it&#39;s...<br><br>lsof | grep firefox | grep tmp<br><br>firefox   27357       user   72u      REG        8,1        0  6177091 /var/tmp/etilqs_2SWFrJKOPJgPeet (deleted)<br>

<br>etilqs seemed to be sqlite backwards?<br><br>bizzare.... any idea&#39;s what that is or how to relocated it to my ramdisk?<br><br>Cheers,<br>Lee<br><br><br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 18/10/09, Lee Hughes <i>&lt;<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br>

<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Lee Hughes &lt;<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">toxicnaan@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: [dundee] laptop mode power saving<br>
To:
 &quot;Tayside Linux User Group&quot; &lt;<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=dundee@lists.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">dundee@lists.lug.org.uk</a>&gt;<br>Date: Sunday, 18 October, 2009, 3:06 PM<div><div></div><div>
<br><br><div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign="top">Right,<br>

<br>has any got laptop mode working successfully , i&#39;m trying to get my hard disk to spin down as long as possible, <br><br>i&#39;ve been using a combination of lm-profile, iotop -o -d 10 -b<br><br>now,  i&#39;ve nailed fire fox from fsyncing all the time, that&#39;s improved things some what,<br>

<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23159573-Re-Make-Firefox-3x-more-responsive-with-a-simple-trick" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23159573-Re-Make-Firefox-3x-more-responsive-with-a-simple-trick</a><br>

<br>it&#39;s also faster too boot!<br><br>however,  my hard disk sleeps for about 2mins, i&#39;ve zapped syslog and klog for testing,<br>so there
 should be nothing on the system that should need to wake the disk for writing.<br><br>however, kkjournald is waking the disk up, (presumable to write the journal to disk)<br>but the file system is mounted with <br><br>/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,commit=600)<br>

<br>so, it should only commit every 10
 mins, or when we run low on memory.<br><br>  PID USER      DISK READ  DISK WRITE   SWAPIN    IO    COMMAND<br>  807 root           0 B/s    5.54 K/s  0.00 %  0.00 % [kjournald]<br> 3911 user           0 B/s    0.40 K/s  0.00 %  0.00 % gnome-power-manager<br>

<br><br>oh,actually i wonder  if it&#39;s the gnome power manager, how ironic.. looks like<br>the gnome power manager might be forcing a sync...<br><br>yes, it seems that a lot of gnome componets are doing a fsync, thus waking my disk<br>

up.. :-(<br><br>all i want is, while i&#39;m not reading new data(i.e uncached data from disk) , i want<br>applications to write (but delay that write until I say, or a timeout value).<br><br>i think over use of the fsync call may be
 answer, but i think there&#39;s more to it than that.<br><br>my harddrives now been dormant for 10mins....  spin down nirvarna has been reached.<br><br>looks like killing the gnome power meter has stopped the spin ups... now that&#39;s<br>

ironic..  any replacements? or shall i go and hack it.<br><br>i wonder if this would do ssd&#39;s good too.<br><br>thoughts?<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Lee<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></td></tr></tbody></table>
<br>




      </div><br></div></div>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br><br><div>_______________________________________________<br>dundee GNU/Linux Users Group mailing list<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=dundee@lists.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">dundee@lists.lug.org.uk</a>  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://dundeelug.org.uk" target="_blank">http://dundeelug.org.uk</a><br>

<a rel="nofollow" href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee</a><br>Chat on IRC, #tlug on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://irc.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">irc.lug.org.uk</a></div>

</blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table><br>



      <br>_______________________________________________<br>
dundee GNU/Linux Users Group mailing list<br>
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=dundee@lists.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">dundee@lists.lug.org.uk</a>  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://dundeelug.org.uk" target="_blank">http://dundeelug.org.uk</a><br>
<a rel="nofollow" href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee</a><br>
Chat on IRC, #tlug on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://irc.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">irc.lug.org.uk</a><br></blockquote></div><br>
</div><br>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br><br><div>_______________________________________________<br>dundee GNU/Linux Users Group mailing list<br><a href="http://mc/compose?to=dundee@lists.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">dundee@lists.lug.org.uk</a>  <a href="http://dundeelug.org.uk" target="_blank">http://dundeelug.org.uk</a><br>
<a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee</a><br>Chat on IRC, #tlug on <a href="http://irc.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">irc.lug.org.uk</a></div>
</div></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table><br>



      <br>_______________________________________________<br>
dundee GNU/Linux Users Group mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:dundee@lists.lug.org.uk">dundee@lists.lug.org.uk</a>  <a href="http://dundeelug.org.uk" target="_blank">http://dundeelug.org.uk</a><br>
<a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dundee</a><br>
Chat on IRC, #tlug on <a href="http://irc.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">irc.lug.org.uk</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><br><br>Nick Walker<br>Vice President : The Linux Society<br>UAD Ethical Hacker<br>