<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">when the huy comes around, show him last years licence, if he complains about it not being valid, just say you have to endure or lasy years programs...<br><br>;-)<br> <br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 18/11/09, Kris Davidson <i><davidson.kris@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Kris Davidson <davidson.kris@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [dundee] TV Licensing<br>To: "Tayside Linux User Group" <dundee@lists.lug.org.uk><br>Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 17:14<br><br><div class="plainMail">This isn't me or anyone I know... but say theres a hypothetical flat<br>occupied by students. The students are too mean and cheap to pony up<br>for a license, the flat has cable TV and some of them do watch the TV.<br>Well this flat got away with not buying a license
for about 4 years.<br>Like others have said the warnings are a scare tactic.<br><br>Kris<br><br>2009/11/18 Axel <<a ymailto="mailto:newsletter@axelbor.de" href="/mc/compose?to=newsletter@axelbor.de">newsletter@axelbor.de</a>>:<br>> Ok, thank you to all.<br>><br>> Now, I know what I have do do, nothing :-)<br>><br>> Same procedure as in Germany.<br>><br>> But the rules in the UK not so hard like in Germany. In Germany I have<br>> to pay only if I own a TV or a Computer. It is not important that I<br>> use this to watch TV.<br>><br>> Thanks, to help me save money.<br>><br>> Axel<br>><br>><br>> Quoting Hazel McKendrick <<a ymailto="mailto:dreamisdead0@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=dreamisdead0@gmail.com">dreamisdead0@gmail.com</a>>:<br>><br>>> Hey,<br>>><br>>> You *can* write them a letter or give them a phone call to cancel an<br>>> investigation, but to be honest all
they're going to do if you don't<br>>> is send more letters - I find it best just to ignore them.<br>>><br>>> You don't have to phone the police every time there is a murder to<br>>> notify them that you didn't commit it, so why should you feel obliged<br>>> to notify the TV Licensing board to let them know that you still<br>>> aren't stealing a service?<br>>><br>>> Getting these irritating letters is just part of being a student (they<br>>> keep sending them for months), and I find the tone of them pretty<br>>> offensive when I am not and do not intend to watch TV without a<br>>> license.<br>>><br>>> Hazel.<br>>><br>>> 2009/11/18 Axel <<a ymailto="mailto:newsletter@axelbor.de" href="/mc/compose?to=newsletter@axelbor.de">newsletter@axelbor.de</a>>:<br>>>> Thanks for your answers.<br>>>><br>>>> For one minute if find this on the
homepage<br>>>><br>>>> You don?t need a TV Licence for your term-time address if<br>>>> You only watch downloaded or streamed TV AFTER it has been broadcast<br>>>> This includes using websites like YouTube and Bebo, as well as ?on<br>>>> demand? internet services like iPlayer offering TV downloads or<br>>>> streaming.<br>>>><br>>>> This mean it is not necessary to buy one.<br>>>><br>>>> How I can stop the investigation? I don't find any information on the<br>>>> homepage or have I to call the agency?<br>>>><br>>>> Axel<br>>>><br>>>> Quoting Sean McRobbie <<a ymailto="mailto:lug@seany.us" href="/mc/compose?to=lug@seany.us">lug@seany.us</a>>:<br>>>><br>>>>> It's clever scare tactics that scam money out of a lot of people who<br>>>>> do not watch Live
TV.<br>>>>><br>>>>> The beeb themselves claim iPlayer on demand content is fine.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Even if you have a TV, you only need a licence if using it to watch<br>>>>> Live TV too. I called up to confirm I only use my TV for consoles<br>>>>> and DVDs etc, they said that's fine we'll take you off our list -<br>>>>> never heard a peep since.<br>>>>><br>>>>> It seems as though they have very limited powers anyway - for<br>>>>> example they cannot enter your premises without your permission or<br>>>>> search warrant. Do not be tricked into purchasing something you are<br>>>>> not legally bound to.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Regards,<br>>>>> Sean McRobbie<br>>>>><br>>>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>>>>> From: "James Le Cuirot" <<a
ymailto="mailto:chewi@aura-online.co.uk" href="/mc/compose?to=chewi@aura-online.co.uk">chewi@aura-online.co.uk</a>><br>>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:dundee@lists.lug.org.uk" href="/mc/compose?to=dundee@lists.lug.org.uk">dundee@lists.lug.org.uk</a><br>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009 3:59:37 PM<br>>>>> Subject: Re: [dundee] TV Licensing<br>>>>><br>>>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:49:08 +0100<br>>>>> Axel <<a ymailto="mailto:newsletter@axelbor.de" href="/mc/compose?to=newsletter@axelbor.de">newsletter@axelbor.de</a>> wrote:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> today I received a letter, that I'm under investigation for the TV<br>>>>>> license.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> I'm not sure if is necessary to buy one.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Sometimes I use the bbc iplayer to improve my English. In my room
is<br>>>>>> only my notebook connect to the Internet. No special hardware to<br>>>>>> capture TV or other device witch can be use for watching TV.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Here is the important paragraph from the letter:<br>>>>>> What you need to know is that if you watch TV programmes as they are<br>>>>>> being shown, you need to covered by a TV License. (Ok, after this<br>>>>>> sentence I think the license is necessary)<br>>>>>> ...<br>>>>>> When you're plugged in streaming live TV, your parents license won't<br>>>>>> cover you, and neither will your hall's. ( No, BBC iplayer is not<br>>>>>> live streaming, is it streaming on demand)<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> A Guy from my class tell me it's necessary to buy on. What is your<br>>>>>>
opinion?<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> It's a lot of money for my, but I don't like to get any trouble<br>>>>>> which the UK government.<br>>>>><br>>>>> I don't believe you need one. If you're only using iPlayer then, as it<br>>>>> says, you don't need it for that because it's not live. You were<br>>>>> probably sent this because they send out a lot of false positives. They<br>>>>> use a scanner from outside and it may well be a neighbour's TV that<br>>>>> they are picking up.<br>>>>><br>>>>> James<br>>>>><br>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>> dundee GNU/Linux Users Group mailing list<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:dundee@lists.lug.org.uk" href="/mc/compose?to=dundee@lists.lug.org.uk">dundee@lists.lug.org.uk</a> <a href="http://dundeelug.org.uk"
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