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On 10/20/2011 09:38 AM, Robert Ladyman wrote:
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<pre wrap="">So, which of you are volunteering to be my "chaperones"? Perhaps we need a
list of beards for whom you can volunteer. A bit like care in the community
for us oldies.</pre>
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That's what freshers are for Bob :)<br>
<br>
All joking aside ladies and gentlemen, this is a massive assault on
the very fabric of the society. When me and the other founding
officers started this society it was under the strict understanding
that it be "open" to everyone and the we did not "discriminate"
against individuals because they study at Abertay. This was widely
accepted and welcomed by nearly all officers of the students
association through the years until recently. <br>
<br>
It is not a secret that the currently Vice-President sees none
student members as an "issue". Some of you members who remember
when we had the meetings in the HMC will recognise the new
Vice-President of the student association as one of the door staff
that use to give none-student members hassle at the door. The
reason we moved to the main campus.<br>
<br>
This is not just about getting lecturers to speak up, it is about
the whole community speaking up. Abertay is part of the wider
Dundee community, it is not its own eco-system. It draws money from
the public purse, that the general public pay for from taxes. These
members of the general public seem to be no longer welcome.<br>
<br>
Do not kid yourselves here, EVERYONE that has ever benefited from
the society needs now ask themselves this; "am i prepared not to say
something". The none-student members, student members, and everyone
connected with this society who wish to see it survive such an
attack (i'll explain why i think this soon) need to help by letting
the student association know what you think of this.<br>
<br>
The student association executive officers are well aware of the
benefits this society gives students; A public forum to practices
speaking, regular networking with industry insiders, greater
understanding of computer architecture and software, greater
employability, and Abertay's name being held in national prestige.
Let's not kid ourselves, we're about to watch a "award" winning
computing university, have no "computing" society. If they do, it's
close to being closed doors. They almost seem proud that they'd be
a waiting list for members of the public to join. Can you imagine
turning someone away just because we were a student short. If you
do nothing this is something you could very well see. <br>
<br>
This "attack" was a loop-hole, they knew they could not change the
established constitution so they added a appendix with the
criteria. They gave members of the SRC zero notice of such a
massive vote, and did not back up their allegations. But lets
follow this for a second though. If they argue that money
disproportionately is going to none-student members (which it
isn't), the society receives a £150 per annum, we have a ratio of
1:1 at the moment. They've done this to us for £75, and of course
minus your yearly dues off that too. Of course i totally disagree
with this, frankly i have never heard anything so absurd in all my
life. When someone's hypothesis becomes reality without any form of
questioning or scrutiny real problems happen. <br>
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So like i say, EVERYONE that wants to see the society here in 12
months time, then its time you ACTUALLY do something. Rebuilding
taylug to be a regular meeting originations is an avenue well worthy
of pursuing, however at the same time this issue must be brought to
light. We must carry the touch, and we must let our feelings
known. I see many of you regularly to know that this society is
part of your life, and it is now fighting for its life. It needs
your support.<br>
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As Ryan has suggested, and i strongly suggest please drop an email
to the president of the students association asking questions and
asking them to reconsider the massive implications of this. <br>
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