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>And Paul, don't get me started on top posting!<br>
<div class="">> Could it be a memory issue? 20 FF tabs is the equivalent to running<br>
> 20 Firefox applications? I had a similar issue with a VM recently<br></div>
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> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:31, Malcolm <<a href="mailto:malcolm@wxlr.co.uk">malcolm@wxlr.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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> > I'm struggling to work out why my computer won't load firefox and<br>
> > thunderbird.<br></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> > I was running PCLinuxOS and if I tried to start either FF or TB the<br>
> > computer would lock up.</div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> > Finally the point of my post: Is it possible that the graphics card<br>
> > is faulty/overheating/possessed? £20 will get me one from Ebay so<br>
> > it's not that bad if I have to buy one to eliminate this<br>
> > possibility.<br></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> > Added as it might be relevant: I frequently have about 20 FF<br>
> > windows open at any one time.<br></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> > Any other suggestions for a cure are welcome.<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">If you are using gmail, top posting is the default.</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">However! That's not relevant to the task at hand.<br><br>On the memory side of things. I think the simple answer is 'it depends'. Sadly there's not really enough information to go on. 20 tabs can use a huge amount of memory, or they can use next to nothing. The actual overhead from Firefox itself isn't huge ( especially in recent years ) but the content from pages, themes, extensions etc can all add up. I'm going to make an assumption however that the memory isnt an issue.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">You mentioned that on <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">PCLinuxOS</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> that the system 'hung', however the mouse still moved and you could click. It's just nothing happened. This generally indicates an issue with X and quite possibly the Nvidia kernel module. Sadly without having access to a system experiencing the fault it's hard to be certain what the problem is /was. </span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><font face="arial, sans-serif">A small silver lining/bit of advice. Before ripping out the graphics card ( and don't be scared of Nvidia cards. They're honestly fine and the linux support isn't that bad. ATI vs Nvidia often comes down to arguing for the sake of arguing ) check what version of of the Nvidia kernel module your using. It might be worthwhile trying the nouveau driver. I once saw a similar issue prior to the 319.12 version from Nvidia (specifically with switching firefox tabs)</font></div>
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