[Nelug] RE: Nelug digest, Vol 1 #66 - 6 msgs
Andy Hoult
gonkster at jolt.co.uk
Wed Jul 2 12:31:01 UTC 2003
Hiya,
I only just joined the group myself recently and been to one meet, only 4 or
5 of us showed up but there seems to be a hell of a lot more on the mailing
list.
I'm a bit of a "noob" myself, only using linux to run gameservers remotely
(I work from home for www.jolt.co.uk )
I think half the prob may be that Wednesday nights are awkward for meets
(well it is tricky for me anyway) Fridays and Saturdays are the best times
for me.
Durham is about 20 miles from Newcastle.
Regards,
Andy Hoult
AKA Gonkster
Jolt Administrator
www.jolt.co.uk
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5. Re: Hello (simon.oldham at sicom-systems.co.uk)
6. Re: Hello (Martin Ward)
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Message: 1
From: Si <simon.oldham at sicom-systems.co.uk>
To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:35:31 +0100
Subject: [Nelug] Hello
Reply-To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk
Hi,
My name is Si and I am due to move from Wolverhampton to Newcastle in three
weeks to work for 12 months, as the third year of my BSc (hons) Computer
Science sandwich degree. I stumbled across your LUG in Linux Format and
added
myself to the mailing list, although as yet I have recieved no mail (?) - so
this e-mail is a test as well as an introduction.
I currently run Mandrake 9.1 and would definately be considered a novice. I
am
a reasonable C/C++ programmer and I would like to learn more about the unix
specific application of the language(s) - I gather that there are unix
libraries that allow the programmer to interact with the operating system
(sort of like <windows.h> when using WIN32 API?) - please put me right if
this is not the case! I have also just started to learn bash scripting and
I
am very impressed with what can be achieved with a few simple commands, so
this is now an area of interest as well.
I am afraid that I may not contribute much, due to my lack of knowledge, but
I
would like to be in contact with other linux users in the north east and
pick
the brains of those wiser than I. I am not sure how far Durham is from
Newcastle (about 300 miles from Wolverhampton!) but I will endeavour to get
over there.
Cheers,
Simon Oldham
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:09:03 +0100
From: Paul Hutchinson <paulhutchinson at warpmail.net>
To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Nelug] Hello
Reply-To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:35:31 +0100
Si <simon.oldham at sicom-systems.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My name is Si and I am due to move from Wolverhampton to Newcastle in
three
> weeks to work for 12 months, as the third year of my BSc (hons) Computer
> Science sandwich degree. I stumbled across your LUG in Linux Format and
added
> myself to the mailing list, although as yet I have recieved no mail (?) -
so
> this e-mail is a test as well as an introduction.
>
> I currently run Mandrake 9.1 and would definately be considered a novice.
I am
> a reasonable C/C++ programmer and I would like to learn more about the
unix
> specific application of the language(s) - I gather that there are unix
> libraries that allow the programmer to interact with the operating system
> (sort of like <windows.h> when using WIN32 API?) - please put me right if
> this is not the case! I have also just started to learn bash scripting
and I
> am very impressed with what can be achieved with a few simple commands, so
> this is now an area of interest as well.
>
> I am afraid that I may not contribute much, due to my lack of knowledge,
but I
> would like to be in contact with other linux users in the north east and
pick
> the brains of those wiser than I. I am not sure how far Durham is from
> Newcastle (about 300 miles from Wolverhampton!) but I will endeavour to
get
> over there.
Hi Simon,
I have just recently signed up to this mailing-list too, and it is very low
traffic.
Anyway, I am no ace at programming, but one bit of advice that has never
failed me is "Buy the O'Reilly book about whatever you want to learn". Thats
seems to do the trick for me. I will do my best to answer any other linux
questions you have though, as I have quite a bit of experience with day to
day running and maintenance.
Anyway, the main point of this message is the LUG. Durham is about 20miles
from Newcastle. But there are Tyneside LUG, which would be nearer. I'm
afraid I don't have a link, but google should be able to help.
Hope it works out ok,
Paul
> Cheers,
>
> Simon Oldham
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 23:09:27 +0100
From: Sean Kelly <lists at shortestpath.org>
To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Nelug] Hello
Reply-To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk
Quoting Paul Hutchinson <paulhutchinson at warpmail.net>:
> Anyway, the main point of this message is the LUG. Durham is about
> 20miles from Newcastle. But there are Tyneside LUG, which would be
> nearer. I'm afraid I don't have a link, but google should be able to
It's http://www.tyneside.lug.org.uk/ although don't expect much
activity...
Many southbound GNER and Virgin trains from Newcastle stop at Durham and
it's about 5-10 mins walk into the city from there. Whilst a student, I
used to work part time in Durham and go in from Newcastle on the train for
half days without needing to waste the rest of the day waiting for public
transport.
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Sean Kelly <lists at shortestpath.org>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 23:16:16 +0100
From: Sean Kelly <lists at shortestpath.org>
To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Nelug] Hello
Reply-To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk
Quoting Si <simon.oldham at sicom-systems.co.uk>:
> I gather that there are
> unix libraries that allow the programmer to interact with
> the operating system (sort of like <windows.h> when using
> WIN32 API?) - please put me right if this is not the case!
There are plenty. I agree with the "buy a book" approach although
there is nothing wrong with sticking "programming TOPIC_X under unix"
into google. There are some good tutorials out on the web.
One thing to remember is that programming TOPIC_X under Linux may
be different to under one of the BSD variants and also completely
different to Solaris. So look for something generic or something
written with portability in mind. Or just go for broke and find out
how it's done under Linux ;)
> I have also just started to learn bash scripting and I am
> very impressed with what can be achieved with a few simple
> commands, so this is now an area of interest as well.
The man pages are good for this "man bash", "man zsh", etc. If
you're interested in bash then http://www.tldp.org/ has a good bash
scripting guide. Again, sticking "shell scripting tutorial" into
google will probably yield results.
--
Sean Kelly <lists at shortestpath.org>
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Message: 5
From: simon.oldham at sicom-systems.co.uk
To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Nelug] Hello
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 08:43:02 +0100
Reply-To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk
Thanks for the advice. I prefer to read from books, as opposed to from=20
websites, but trying to find books on unix specifics is not always easy=20
(except for the ubiquitous '...for dummies' which don't go into enough deta=
il=20
and certainly don't cover unix programming). Waterstones don't usually both=
er=20
with this area, and my University library (Wolverhampton) appears to be=20
funded by Microsoft(!). This leaves Amazon, from whom I have bought many=20
books, but this involves taking pot luck on the title at =A340.00 a go (poo=
r=20
student etc.). If anybody has a title in mind, I would be happy to trust yo=
ur=20
judgement and purchase it from Amazon.
Cheers,
Si
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Message: 6
From: Martin Ward <Martin.Ward at durham.ac.uk>
To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk, Si <simon.oldham at sicom-systems.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Nelug] Hello
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:02:34 +0100
Reply-To: nelug at mailman.lug.org.uk
On Tuesday 01 Jul 2003 8:35 pm, Si wrote:
> I have also just started to learn bash scripting and
> I am very impressed with what can be achieved with a few simple command=
s,
> so this is now an area of interest as well.
Drop bash programming and take up perl instead: you will be amazed
at how much *more* can be achieved with a few simple commands.
Plus the vast range of perl modules allow all kinds of interactions
with the operating system etc.
--=20
=09=09=09Martin
Martin.Ward at durham.ac.uk http://www.cse.dmu.ac.uk/~mward/ Erdos number: 4
G.K.Chesterton web site: http://www.cse.dmu.ac.uk/~mward/gkc/
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