<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I will be attending the Pi Jam next Saturday!<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Yours sincerely,</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><strong>Laura Freeman</strong></font></div></div>
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1. Schools/STEMnet/DBS checks [Re: Fwd: This Friday]<br>
(Gordon Henderson)<br>
2. Re: Schools/STEMnet/DBS checks [Re: Fwd: This Friday]<br>
(Paul Sutton)<br>
3. Pi jam Saturday 22nd (Paul Sutton)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:27:58 +0000 (GMT)<br>
From: Gordon Henderson <<a href="mailto:gordon%2Blug@drogon.net">gordon+lug@drogon.net</a>><br>
To: Exeter LUG Mailing List <<a href="mailto:exeter@mailman.lug.org.uk">exeter@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>
Subject: [ExeterLUG] Schools/STEMnet/DBS checks [Re: Fwd: This<br>
Friday]<br>
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Malcolm Dinsmore wrote:<br>
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> Hi Gordon,<br>
><br>
> I was talking to Julie Poynsenby from west exe school today, she<br>
> mentioned that one of the other teachers in west exe is hoping to do<br>
> some stuff with raspberry pi. Sorry I don't have any more details.?<br>
><br>
> I know you are keen to do some stem stuff if you are happy to talk to<br>
> them, let me have an email address you'd like to be contacted on about<br>
> it. I'll put you in touch with her.?<br>
<br>
Just FYI, and for others on the list:<br>
<br>
As a STEMnet ambassador with a STEMnet issued DBS check, I would have to<br>
apply for another DBS check to do any voluntary work in any Devon County<br>
Council School.<br>
<br>
This applies to all STEMnet ambassadors with STEMnet issued DBS check<br>
certificates for all Devon county council schools.<br>
<br>
I have had this confirmed by Phil Barrett, Team Leader Safer Recruitment<br>
Service from Devon CC. (Who had never heard of STEMnet nor code club )-:<br>
<br>
I have asked STEMnet to look into this too.<br>
<br>
But DCCs stance is that the update service (which all STEMnet ambassadors<br>
were encouraged to subscribe to) is nine months out of date and therefore<br>
not acceptable for use in DCC. (I have asked the update service for<br>
clarification on this)<br>
<br>
If West Exe is an academy school then they may have their own guidelines,<br>
or they may simply defer back to DCCs rules. I'd need to know before going<br>
on-site.<br>
<br>
I've just been through all this with another school I had volunteered to<br>
help run code club with. Phil Barrett is adamant that I must re-submit the<br>
data for another DBS check, however it means that that school will have to<br>
pay for another DBS check for me.<br>
<br>
I have decided to refuse to go through the process again purely on the<br>
grounds of unnecessary bureaucracy. (I've held an enhanced CRB/DBS check<br>
certificates for the past 9 years so am hardly likely to fail - this is<br>
purely a stance against the bureaucracy)<br>
<br>
Gordon<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:44:06 +0000<br>
From: Paul Sutton <<a href="mailto:zleap@zleap.net">zleap@zleap.net</a>><br>
To: Exeter LUG Mailing List <<a href="mailto:exeter@mailman.lug.org.uk">exeter@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [ExeterLUG] Schools/STEMnet/DBS checks [Re: Fwd: This<br>
Friday]<br>
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On 14/03/14 12:27, Gordon Henderson wrote:<br>
> On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Malcolm Dinsmore wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Gordon,<br>
>><br>
>> I was talking to Julie Poynsenby from west exe school today, she<br>
>> mentioned that one of the other teachers in west exe is hoping to do<br>
>> some stuff with raspberry pi. Sorry I don't have any more details.<br>
>><br>
>> I know you are keen to do some stem stuff if you are happy to talk to<br>
>> them, let me have an email address you'd like to be contacted on<br>
>> about it. I'll put you in touch with her.<br>
><br>
> Just FYI, and for others on the list:<br>
><br>
> As a STEMnet ambassador with a STEMnet issued DBS check, I would have<br>
> to apply for another DBS check to do any voluntary work in any Devon<br>
> County Council School.<br>
><br>
> This applies to all STEMnet ambassadors with STEMnet issued DBS check<br>
> certificates for all Devon county council schools.<br>
><br>
> I have had this confirmed by Phil Barrett, Team Leader Safer<br>
> Recruitment Service from Devon CC. (Who had never heard of STEMnet nor<br>
> code club )-:<br>
><br>
> I have asked STEMnet to look into this too.<br>
><br>
> But DCCs stance is that the update service (which all STEMnet<br>
> ambassadors were encouraged to subscribe to) is nine months out of<br>
> date and therefore not acceptable for use in DCC. (I have asked the<br>
> update service for clarification on this)<br>
><br>
> If West Exe is an academy school then they may have their own<br>
> guidelines, or they may simply defer back to DCCs rules. I'd need to<br>
> know before going on-site.<br>
><br>
> I've just been through all this with another school I had volunteered<br>
> to help run code club with. Phil Barrett is adamant that I must<br>
> re-submit the data for another DBS check, however it means that that<br>
> school will have to pay for another DBS check for me.<br>
><br>
> I have decided to refuse to go through the process again purely on the<br>
> grounds of unnecessary bureaucracy. (I've held an enhanced CRB/DBS<br>
> check certificates for the past 9 years so am hardly likely to fail -<br>
> this is purely a stance against the bureaucracy)<br>
><br>
> Gordon<br>
><br>
><br>
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The whole point of the update service is that once you have a dbs cert<br>
for children workforce in this case you should NEVER need to apply for<br>
this again, partly as they can log in and see if anything has changed<br>
from when it was done, which is no different to going through the whole<br>
process again. As in it is designed to SAVE on paperwork. If<br>
something has changed then it is up to them if they ask for a whole new<br>
one, which they can do.<br>
<br>
DBS update service is as the name suggests to keep things up to date,<br>
why can't these jobsworths see that.<br>
<br>
Ah hang on, the idea of all this was also to bring some common sense in<br>
to the system, (that could explain things) the DBS spent a lot of time<br>
and money on this new system to make it easier for everyone.<br>
<br>
If you were being paid then then the DBS people charge you ?13 a year<br>
(which is not bad i think esp if you move around alot) , which would be<br>
a waste of money if no one is using the service properly, me of the info<br>
printed out here, it is pretty clear in both the document for the<br>
applicant and the employer.<br>
<br>
I suspect that all the are doing is keeping a few jobsworths in a job,<br>
<br>
End of the day its is Their LOSS here eh.<br>
<br>
I agree with your stance on this, btw.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 20:42:27 +0000<br>
From: Paul Sutton <<a href="mailto:zleap@zleap.net">zleap@zleap.net</a>><br>
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Hi<br>
<br>
Anyone planning on attending the Raspberry pi jam in Exeter on March 22nd ?<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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Torbay Raspberry Pi Jam, 12th April 2014 - <a href="http://dcglug.drogon.net/torbay-pi-jam/" target="_blank">http://dcglug.drogon.net/torbay-pi-jam/</a><br>
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I am committed to safeguarding children, young people and vulnerable groups and expect any school or establishment I am involved with to share this commitment.<br>
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