[Gllug] sid & kde3

Jim Bailey jim at freesolutions.net
Tue Jul 2 13:09:24 UTC 2002


On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 09:50:57AM +0100, Matt Amos wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 05:24:34PM +0100, Nix wrote:
> > >                                                    in contrast gnome 2.0 
> > > is virtually impossible to compile from scratch and the dependancy hell 
> > > requires a set of scripts to do the build for you!
> > 
> > But it doesn't look as horrid as KDE, 
> 
> that is a matter of great opinion ;)
> 
> > and it doesn't use a demented
> > distorted ugly broken dysfunctional core-dumping slow horrible
> > preprocessor[1], and its C++ bindings are substantially nicer than KDE's
> > (why oh why does Qt, even Qt 3, reinvent half the C++ standard library
> > in a completely and totally half-assed way that shows their lack of
> > understanding of anything the STL part of that library is about?)
> 
> iirc, the whole pre-preprocessor and non-compliant syntax in qt which 
> tries to emulate the STL is an attempt to make qt more portable - 
> trolltech didnt seem to think that there was a decent C++ implementation 
> for most platforms.
> 
> > Pardon me. I don't like GNOME much, especially their apparent belief
> > that all you need is CORBA bindings for something and you don't need to
> > write bindings to any decent scripting languages at all, and Miguel's
> > apparent desire to add everything that's most broken about Windows into
> > Unix, but it's still a hell of a lot nicer than KDE, from the
> > infrastructural point of view.[2]
> 
> which is probably why it takes as long to load a C++ KDE program as it 
> does to load a CORBA-bound GNOME program.
> 
> > [1] I don't even like cpp: but there is *no* excuse for moc.
> 
> how could you not like cpp? its the very basis of code obfuscation 
> competitions! ;)
>
Oh goody are we going to have a flame war on desktops?  I like
Windowmaker.  I haven't much of a clue how it works but I like it. ;P

Peace Jim

"The problem with unpolluted air is it stinks."
--Recent conversation overheard on London Underground.


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