[Gllug] OSS CMSs

[Richard Turner]

On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 11:28 +0100, Tethys wrote:
> Doug Winter writes:
> 
> >There are a few out there in PHP and Perl that might be worth a look,
> >but I can't stand either of those languages, and I don't believe either
> >is suitable for anything serious, because of serious design flaws in the
> >languages.
> 
> Wow! And I thought *I* was scathing at times :-)

So did I! ;) Generally harsh but fair though.

>  FWIW, I'd agree
> entirely about Perl. The point of no return was passed many years ago.
> PHP is teetering on the edge, and still has a shot at redpemption.
> It's a nice language, but seems to suffer from a lack of design, and
> has a lot of things bolted on without much thought going into them.
> With a bit of careful planning, it could be sanitised before it's too
> late.

This complements my view of PHP exactly. I've had to use it quite a bit
over the last three years and was quite looking forward to v5, after the
promise of proper OOP support. I've since discovered that one can
quickly go off a language!

> I tend to agree with your choice of Python. It has a lot going
> for it IMHO, and I'm seriously considering writing my next couple
> of projects in it. My experiences with Tcl have convinced me that
> scripting languages are the future for general purpose programming,
> only dropping down to lower level languages where heavy lifting is
> required. Speed of development *far* outweighs any other factors
> for all but a few specialist tasks, and scripting languages are
> untouchable there...

Yep once again. I actually went looking for information about Python a
few months back; I was seeing it everywhere and wanted to find a nice
(preferably OOP) alternative to PHP. Having found some Python info I
inevitably found links to Ruby info too and remembered a mate of mine
waxing lyrical about that a few years ago (I think he was using it at
Logica at the time, although my memory's never been very reliable). To
cut a long story short, I decided to learn Ruby over Python and *really*
like it. It's not as ubiquitous as Python though (yet), and I'm not
convinced about Rails (www.rubyonrails.org), so I don't think I'll be
able to find a suitable Ruby-based CMS.

Similarly to Rails, there's something about Zope that puts me off but
I'm not sure what it is; just a gut feeling. Perhaps I'm taking
scepticism about hype to paranoid levels!

Thanks for the comments and thanks too to folks for links to Drupal and
TextPattern; I'll take a look at both of those.

Cheers,

Richard.
-- 
"Racing turtles, the grapefruit is winning..."

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