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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Bruce Richardson [<A HREF="mailto:itsbruce@uklinux.net">mailto:itsbruce@uklinux.net</A>]</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> You didn't say anything about creating new law - for which </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> there is legal process - but about breaking existing ones </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to suit circumstances.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Besides, a new law in favour of selective torture would (in </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> both the US and Europe) be in breach of the constitutional </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> conventions on which law is based. Since the idea of a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> constitution is that it represents certain basics that </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> no law should break, that's a bit of an obstacle.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Lets not stray away from the fact that laws have to change and this was my point, these changes in law will be executed by the most suitable method in times of great need and these do not always wait on "legal process". Who is to say that in all circumstances the GC is correct and that in 1949 and later in 1977 the people where correct in what they wrote. Its been 24 years since the last major change and maybe it needs to change again. These things need to be as fluid as society in order not to become outdated and antiquated. When atrocities are taking place we do not have time to chew the cud its action that's required not fancy words and high ideals. In times of peace we can talk as much as we want and play at high and mighty but it does not stop it happening again.</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> President Bush has stated (and according to polls most </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Americans agree with him) that the US was attacked by </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> people who envy US freedoms and ideals (as enshrined </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> in their constitution). Reducing those freedoms an</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> betraying those ideals as part of the response to the attack </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> is irony beyond satire.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I will state again that I will wait for the views of the red cross before condemning Americas treatment of these men. Those pictures where taken as these men arrived. If they are being subjugated to torture for no other reason than they can torture them then I would support any protest against it.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>When a nuclear device is detonated in a large city as it could be given time and a few million people loose their lives I wonder what the idealists will say. There are thousands of people prepared to commit suicide for their beliefs in the world today and I do not think that they are at all bothered about how they do it. Do we wait for that kind of atrocity or take action now. People used to think that Sep 11 was a pipe dream for authors of books to write about. Any atrocity that you can imagine can be multiplied by infinity and I guarantee that there is someone out there who would be prepared to carry it out given the means. The bitter realisation is that this is what we are facing its no longer the drunken bum in a pub mouthing off, if these people had a switch that would snuff the life from every living capitalist (lets say three billion) they would flick the switch.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Harry.</FONT>
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