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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Formi [<A HREF="mailto:formi@blueyonder.co.uk">mailto:formi@blueyonder.co.uk</A>]</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Maybe is that the reason why I got flamed and abused for </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> writing about Sep 11, one or two days after.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> What amused me is the people who actually were quite abusive towards</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> me, didn't have the guts to do it in the list,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Please see below for the reply I sent to your email. I will no doubt get flamed for it but I was replying to your opinion that "some people think they got what they deserved" which gave me (my opinion) the impression that you where one of these people. This is the reason I wanted it off the list. I replied off list as it was personal to me and me alone and my thinking that you agree with what happened was not going to help relations between you or me if ever we meet. I tried to be as polite as I possible and over the months that I have been on the list have tried to remain so but of all the mails I have read on this list that one made me quite angry which was no doubt your aim.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>You have successfully resurrected that opinion on this list for which I say "clever boy".</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Back then "politics" didn't seem to be appropriate in this list.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I have read most of the postings and for me is highly difficult not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to join, but I feel most people I don't like the opinions of are not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> interested in hearing arguments against their opinions ...</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Plenty of people have mentioned the haphazard fscked up policy of America and had reasonable well written replies to which I would have been proud to have put my name but I am not aware of anyone saying implying they deserved it. </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>ORIGINAL MAIL SENT TO FORMI OFF LIST</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Jackson, Harry </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: 12 September 2001 11:19</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: 'Formi'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: RE: [Gllug] OT: Lets bomb some islamic extremists. (fwd)</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > From: Formi [<A HREF="mailto:rcarrera@formi.org.uk">mailto:rcarrera@formi.org.uk</A>]</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Lets praise mighty $ God.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Please see "Some Advice" email I posted yesterday.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > The US has been doing lots of wrongs in the name of the $, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > and the US is the most powerful country on earth, now some</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > people might be thinking they are receiving something back.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Please keep opinions like this off the list. This is not a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> political list for which I am thankful. We are all aware of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> the wrongs of various countries Blah Blah we have done our </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> own research to coin a phrase.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I am still thankful this is not a political list although debates do take place.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > I mean</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the atomic bombs dropped in Japan,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the war with Vietnam,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the Iraq affair,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the messing around with the old USSR,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the financing of dictators in Latin America,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the slightly questionable backing of Israel against the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Palestine's,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the CIA backing afghans with intelligence and arms </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> against Russia,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the exploitation by multinationals of children in third world</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > countries, and their parents,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the oppression of Cuba,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the destruction of green places around the planet for oil and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > wood, minerals and anything that can be sold.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the killing of large numbers of north American natives,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the no small amount of unnecessary pollution,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the bullying of small countries, like the crashing of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > banana producing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > countries in Latin America,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the disrespect for poor people anywhere, even if you are an US</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > citizen, if you have no money you get no medical treatment.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the investigation in chemical warfare,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the allowing multinationals to behave in morally </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > questionable ways,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the selling of arms to anybody with a couple of $$,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > - the spying of everything that happens, Echelon, i.e.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ... I have the feeling that I am missing something.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Yes you are, we all know you are but we do not need to read </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> about it. Some of your points and opinions seem to be aimed </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> at raising a few hairs and no doubt you will. This kind of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> email addresses a very sensitive issue and in my and I am </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> sure a few others should never have been sent.</FONT>
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