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<DIV><FONT size=2>Dear GLLUG members,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>¡Hello!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I have been a member of GLLUG since 5 September and have
received some 300 GLLUG emails in these 11 daze. I have been following all
the recent discusions with interest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I am a total Linuxnewbie ... meaning that I have understood
some 5% of the LINUX content of these mails.... And that not being unintelligent
(I was a computer engineer in the early daze ... '70's). For instance:....
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<DIV><BR><FONT size=2><FONT size=1><STRONG><EM>> > > On Thu, 2002-09-05
at 00:07, Norman Duncan wrote:<BR>> > > > I have just got a new
"generic2 built laptop with internal modem:<BR>> > > > All the
information I have is ...<BR>> > > >
Billionton MDC (V2.92.06) Smartlink USB 56<BR>> > > ><BR>> >
> > Can anyone help me to get it running ...
please</EM></STRONG></FONT>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Magnus kindly pointed me in the
direction of Smartlink website ... and I downloaded drivers with instructions.
But .....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1><STRONG><EM>> On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 10:11, Norman Duncan
wrote:<BR>> > Thanks for help at stage 1.<BR>> > I now
havedownloaded and unpacked a bunch of files from Smartlink into a tmp directory
in my SUSE 7.3<BR>> > I am now trying to go through the steps in their
instructions (below) but I don't understand ... though I learn fast, I am
a complete rookie at this sort of stuff ! I am stuck at steps 3, 4 &
5<BR> Smartlink Instructions:<BR>> >
1. Unpack tar.gz package file:<BR>> > $ gzip
-dc slmdm-2.6.X.tar.gz | tar xf -<BR>> > <BR>> > 2. 'cd' to package
directory:<BR>> > $ cd slmdm-2.6.X<BR>>
> <BR>> > 3. Review and edit (if need) 'Makefile'.<BR>> >
<BR>> > Note: Probably you will want to correct in
Makefile path to your local linux kernel header files:<BR>> >
<BR>> >
KERNEL_INCLUDES=/path/to/linux/include<BR>> > <BR>>
> Another way is to
pass command line the parameter while running 'make':<BR>> > <BR>>
> $ make
KERNEL_INCLUDES=/path/to/linux/include ...<BR>> > <BR>> > 4. Run
'make' command to compile package:<BR>>
> $ make<BR>> >
<BR>> > 5. Install.<BR>>
> # make install-usb<BR>>
>
if you are going to use USB modem.<BR>> > <BR>> >
It will install:<BR>> > - modem kernel modules slmdm.o
(modem core), slfax.o (fax) into
'/lib/modules/<kernel-version>/misc' directory (standard linux
modules' directory).<BR>> > - hardware specific kernel
module slamrmo.o (for AMR/CNR/PCI) or slusb.o (for USB) into
'/lib/modules/<kernel-version>/misc' directory (standard linux
modules' directory).<BR>> > - country settings data file
'country.dat' into directory '/etc'.<BR>> > <BR>>
> Also it will:<BR>> > - create
character tty device entry '/dev/ttySL0' with major number 212 and
symbolic link 'dev/modem'.<BR>> > - config you
'/etc/modules.conf' file in order to provide possibility for loading the modem
modules into kernel on demand automatically by kmod, when you are going to use
them.<BR>> > <BR>> > Note: currently you cannot
use both AMR/CNR/PCI and USB Modems.<BR>> > <BR>> > 6. Config modem
country.<BR>> > <BR>> > You can configure you
current country by using module parameters 'country' or 'country_code'.
((SPAIN))<BR>> > Add 'options' directive line to file
'/etc/modules.conf': options slmdm country=<MyCountry><BR>>
> , for example options slmdm country=USA<BR>>
> , or use module parameter while module
loading: # modprobe slmdm
country=<MyCountry><BR>> > <BR>> > Use
'slver -c' to see list of all supported countries and their codes (utility
'slver' may be found in package directory).<BR>> > <BR>>
> Note: Command ATI7 shows installed country
setting.<BR>> > </EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1><BR><FONT size=2>Magnus further replied to my distress</FONT>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1><STRONG><EM></EM></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1><STRONG><EM>> You will need to have the kernel headers for
your running kernel. If you type 'uname -r', you will get your kernel version.
After that you'll need to download an RPM for SuSE 7.3, containing the kernel
headers (also called includes). It's either that or download the whole
kernel-source RPM. As I don't have a clue about SuSE and where you can find its
RPM's I would recommend you to go to </EM></STRONG></FONT><A
href="ftp://ftp.suse.com"><FONT
size=1><STRONG><EM>ftp.suse.com</EM></STRONG></FONT></A><FONT size=2><FONT
size=1><STRONG><EM> and go from there. After you've done that (and installed the
downloaded RPM, of course), you should have a dir /usr/src/linux/include. You
should not need to specify where it is, since that is the standard
location.<BR></EM></STRONG></FONT>> -- <BR>At this point I don't understand
anything. I consider: leaving the group, forgetting about LINUX, suicide (nobody
understands me ...), and other options.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>On the other hand - as a Linuxnewbie, having been a beginner
in other groups, having been a "guru" (in other
contexts), and having had the (great) benefit of having taught
beginners in some of my "guru" subjects (Psychotherapy, mediation, AIKIDO),
... - I feel that I can add something to these discussions (Saturdays
meeting and approach of GLLUG).</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><FONT size=2>1. Beginners are of great value to groups (and their
supposed gurus), they add new thoughts, new ways of looking at things, new
energy for projects, and new people to take over as the older ones get tired,
....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2. Beginners need special treatment. If I don't understand
anything then I will quickly go elsewhere .. is one of the lessons being
learned accross the board by web sites and groups.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>3. Helping beginners is of huge value to the helper
"guru" in consolidating their personal knowledge</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I propose some methods that I have found useful in other
groups: </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><FONT size=2>1. That specific (recently qualified
or just retired) gurus volunteer, to be "beginner host" over a period.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> So when someone first
logs in they receive a message from the "beginner host" with details
of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> monthly meetings,
websites and other beginners help info, and a couple of boxes to
check: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> level of knowledge and
help needed, </FONT><FONT size=2>other knowledge and expertise offered,
...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> ie. ¿What is a Kernel?
¿What do I do when I first open a shell? ¿If I
type <STRONG><EM><FONT size=1>'uname
-r', (Magnus)</FONT></EM></STRONG> ... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> where and when might I
do this...? and such questions (Do you like the Spanish upsidedown
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> question and
exclamation marks ¿¿¿¡¡¡</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2. "Beginner host gurus" benefit from this by
developing their contacts and knowledge in helping out </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> all kinds of problems
and building their relationships within the group. They need clear support
from </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> other gurus and from
the LINUX companies ... in everyones' interest</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>3. This approach both helps newbies and
develops gurus .... "win - win"</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT size=2>As a supernewbie, and living at the present in Barcelona, I
cannot be this person (beginner host). But I am willing to stick it out (as
a "personal and group development guru") and help GLLUG to implement such a
process, helping (as a user) to put together a state of the art "beginners
welcome package".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I am also willing to host GLLUG meetings in Barcelona (say
February when it is drizzling in London and it is perfect on the beach
here).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Very best wishes to all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Norman Duncan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>P.S. I am still trying to get my laptop going, and meanwhile
all this is done from my win 98 PC, getting viruses and the rest. ¡Get me out of
here! N.</FONT></DIV>
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