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seriously, the software out there really isnt as bad as it seems on
redhat, do you really think things that unstable would get out of cvs
in a big project like gnome or kde, when things get packed with a
distro often the libraries are the issue as they someitmes have to be
swapped about or messed up to keep in line with redhat or mandrake, <br>
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compile gnome if you have time and youll see its not too bad at all, im
going to sing the debian song again and i really think i need to, i run
gnome 1.4 perfectly fine and quite nicely on my celeron 400 laptop,
gnome2 on my 1200 duron (altho i am contemplating going back to e16 to
solve boredom)<br>
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both gnome and kde are good systems to use under X, i want both to
co-exist for as long as linux does, they drive each other, kde3 drove
gtk2 more towards nice aa fonts, etc, in debain youll find that gnome
or kde will usually run alot nicer than in dead rat distros. things
actually have some form of quality control.<br>
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bredroll<br>
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Peter Childs wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Tethys wrote:
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<pre wrap="">KDE in particular is guilty of more bloat than even Microsoft can
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<pre wrap="">Looking at the process table while it was running, I was horrified. I
suspect GNOME may be similar, but since the panel dumped core on startup,
I couldn't check...
Both GNOME and KDE need some *serious* work on their default setups to
ensure they work on older machines. I'm not saying we need to consider
a 386 here. But a K6-450 should easily be able to run a graphical
desktop. To say I'm unimpressed is a *huge* understatement.
Tet
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hmm X is bad enough but KDE and Gnome do NOT help! I've now taken
to using WindowMaker with Konsole, since I never used much else of KDE any
how! Anyway the multiude of docking apps available is nice!
I to am not sure what KDE does with its time (Gnome too for that
matter I've seen it running tooo) If WindowMaker can do it all why can't
KDE do the same (and a little more in the same time or less)
I'm told they run Corba etc but even these things but even these
should not bring in so much bloat. Plus when I linked my Qt app against
KDE it bloats. Now Qt ain't good (hmm it takes ages to just shift data
round memory) but it ain't THAT bad (Qt is under KDE for thouse who don't
know).
Now for a cure. (which I ain't got the time to carry out) Create a
new (yes yet another new) distro that is user frendly but slick (probably
based on WindowMaker becuase I like it and the graphical configation is
not bad) has every thing but defaults to a nice quick desktop! Oh hang on
thats what I'm planning for my users desktop here at work (Planning to use
RedHat with WindowMaker as the default desktop :) !).
Peter Childs
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