<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 7 Mar 2008, at 16:58, Jason Clifford wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite">They are offering a service for substantially less than it costs to<br>provide it. <br><br>These days racking a server in a decent colo centre tends to cost about<br>£60 per Amp. Even using the crappiest servers available the server<br>itself will cost them about £250 based upon that configuration.<br>Bandwidth costs money to provide - even if they have peering and don't<br>pay for transit things like routers, membership of peering exchanges,<br>etc costs money. It costs a lot of money to employ the staff to manage<br>all of this and support you.<br><br>How much of that do you think £15 a month covers?<br></blockquote></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Looking at our hosting costs, a half depth 1U server cost us about £10/month</div><div>to host including power in one of the higher quality colos in London, assuming</div><div>it's a reasonably low powered server. That's with renting space by the rack.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>If you rent a suite and go to a cheaper colo outside London you can easily</div><div>bring that well below £10/month per server. If the servers are low enough</div><div>power you can cut the cost even just by increasing the density significantly.</div><div>I'd no be surprised if you could bring the colo costs including power down to</div><div>£5/month.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>It'd still be hard to make a profit on those plans, though, once you add in</div><div>hardware costs and bandwidth. I'd be worried it'd be cheap, low quality</div><div>hardware and a lot of contention for relatively little bandwidth.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I'd think at that price going for a Xen or OpenVZ hosting provider would be</div><div>likely to get better performance and more bandwidth.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Vidar</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>-- </div><div>Vidar Hokstad</div><div>Technical Director</div><div>Aardvark Media Limited</div><div><div><br></div></div></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></body></html>