<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 22 May 2008, at 11:28, James Roberts wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Vidar Hokstad wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Average is extremely misleading unless you reboot in between or make sure<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">it's all paged out. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br>I did also give the first load times :)<br><br>You are arguing for using the worst-case figure not the typical figure :)</blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>No, I'm not. The typical figure for me _is_ the worst case figure. What I'm saying</div><div>is that the average is misleading because it bears little to no relation to the typical</div><div>figure. I get the advantage of OOo being in-memory on maybe 1 in 20 starts at best,</div><div>if I'm lucky. I just don't use a word processor often enough for it to normally be in</div><div>memory.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Shortest I've gotten with 2.4 is 15 sec or so<br></blockquote><br>New hardware?</blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>The dual Xeon box with 4GB RAM i mentioned. It has fairly reasonable drives,</div><div>but I suspect a large percentage of the difference in performance people see</div><div>are disk subsystem related rather than RAM/CPU.</div><br><blockquote type="cite">I'd be worried if any of my systems were actually regularly paging <br>though - RAM is cheap.<br></blockquote></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>RAM is cheap if you have enough slots to put it in and don't need to replace</div><div>relatively expensive laptops to get one that can take more memory. </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>My laptops are more or less fully loaded. I could get another GB in my Macbook</div><div>Pro at home, but frankly, going from 3GB to 4GB wouldn't make much difference.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>None of my machines page much, but when it takes a couple of hours at least</div><div>between each time I load an app, there's been enough "churn" in other apps in</div><div>the meantime that the pages have been thrown out and replaced with other data</div><div>I've used.</div><div><br></div><div>Vidar</div><div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>-- </div><div>Vidar Hokstad</div><div>Technical Director</div><div>Aardvark Media Limited</div><div><div>Mobile: 0795 867 7857</div><div>Direct Dial: 020 7183 2740</div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>2 Fulham Business Exchange</div><div>The Boulevard</div><div>Imperial Wharf</div><div>London</div><div>SW6 2TL</div></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br></div></div></body></html>