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Hey Travis,<br>
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They look like good machines but it's just the price. I'm just going
for a Thinkpad as they're probably the best Laptops you can get for
under £300. <br>
<br>
I do a lot of live performance and DJing, so I wouldn't want
anything too expensive. Even thought my Macbook Pro is from 2009,
it's still worth quite a bit. <br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Leo<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="">I also have a Thinkpad X220 (and a Dell XPS 13
Ubuntu version, and a Macbook Pro, and a Samsung Arm Chromebook,
and a Pi-Top that’ll be delivered Monday, it seems).</div>
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<div class="">The Thinkpad has the best driver support of the lot
under Linux. But Alan is right — the build quality is so-so, and
the ‘support’ is laughable compared to Dell (or even Apple).
It’s not a bad computer, but the screen resolution is pretty
low. The hardware upsides are an actual ethernet port, and the
eraser mouse, but neither of those would convince me to buy a
Thinkpad again.</div>
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<div class="">Mine is the i5 version. I keep it around as a
testing unit, mostly. Resale value isn’t worth the hassle. I
wouldn’t call it a ‘tough’ laptop, though. The all-metal
construction of the XPS 13 is definitely better. But there was a
very annoying regression in the XPS 13’s wireless driver under
14.04, which pushed me over the edge and I bought a Mac (which I
kind of hate, but that’s another discussion).</div>
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<div class="">If I were you, I would look for a Dell XPS 13 (even
an early version, as long as the battery is ok) or an M3800 (you
wanted tough, right?). I think you would be hard pressed to find
a better solution, and if necessary you can change out the WiFi,
etc.</div>
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On 2 November 2015 at 22:57, <<a
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wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">I'm thinking either a
T410 or X220. The main goal would be a tough laptop<br
class="">
that I could use for DJing and Music Production.
Unfortunately this means I<br class="">
would have to run Windows on it (URGH UNCLEAN) to run
some of the music<br class="">
software I rely. I would probably dual boot with
Ubuntu Studio.<br class="">
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<br class="">
I have an i7 Thinkpad X220 which currently dual boots
Windows / Ubuntu<br class="">
with two SSDs (one traditional SATA, one mSATA). Works
okay for a 4<br class="">
year old laptop.<br class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">My question is mainly,
which one do people recommend for my use case? I do a<br
class="">
lot of lugging equipment around the UK (and Europe),
so that would push me<br class="">
towards the X220.<br class="">
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I don't know the T410, but my thoughts on the X220:-<br
class="">
<br class="">
i7 variant cannot dump the heat generated by the CPU. My
i7 frequently<br class="">
overheats, and always has, co-workers have i5 which
never do.<br class="">
Screen resolution is annoyingly low these days, but if
that's not a<br class="">
factor in your decision, then okay.<br class="">
Modern Intel video drivers seem to have gone down the
drain.<br class="">
Sandybridge based devices (which, okay, are 4+years old)
are painful<br class="">
when any kind of 3d stuff is being done, and on recent
kernels are<br class="">
quite crashy.<br class="">
Speakers are awful / low volume.<br class="">
Build quality isn't that great. I've had to replace the
palm rest (at<br class="">
my own expense - thanks Lenovo!) because it cracks
(co-workers have<br class="">
seen same on theirs).<br class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">I've seen the more
expensive X220 occasionally for sale with a i7 but the<br
class="">
T410 with only an i5. My Macbook has a dual core i5
with 8GB of RAM and 1TB<br class="">
hybrid drive and has a similar form factor to the
cheaper T410. Would there<br class="">
be a big performance gap between the i7 X220 and the
i5 T410? I will go for<br class="">
an SSD in either and a good trackpad is a must.<br
class="">
<br class="">
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The trackpad on the X220 is tiny. I actual disable it
because I'm a<br class="">
nipple (trackpoint) kinda guy. The trackpad is quite
'clacky' on the<br class="">
x220.<br class="">
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Cheers,<br class="">
Al.<br class="">
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