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    You have a bit of choice:-<br>
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    Linux based:-<br>
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    Pinephone, (will allow you to run a choice of different Linux based
    offerings)<br>
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    Sailfish - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sailfishos.org/">https://sailfishos.org/</a>  with offerings from Jolla -
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://shop.jolla.com/">https://shop.jolla.com/</a>  <br>
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    Volla - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://volla.online/en/index.html">https://volla.online/en/index.html</a><br>
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    Then there's the android based things but without the google
    spyware/malware:-<br>
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    Lineage - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lineageos.org/">https://lineageos.org/</a>  - this is very much a case of
    rolling your own<br>
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    /e/ or Murena - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://e.foundation/">https://e.foundation/</a>  - very polished, competent
    and stable build that leaves you in charge - uses Micro-G service
    for the apps, but pretty much what you need will be good to go right
    out of the box.  Wide range of hardware compatibility. Free cloud
    services offering too which is based on Nextcloud.<br>
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    Graphene OS - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://grapheneos.org/">https://grapheneos.org/</a> - a miliary-grade 'droid right
    out of the box that also leaves you in charge. Doggedly reliable,
    only runs on Pixel hardware.<br>
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    Aidan<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/04/2022 13:35, MJ via GLLUG
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      <div> Hi Alain,<br>
        As Martin said,<br>
        Having in mind your constraint, you can not have a choice of G
        free hardware by <br>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#devices">https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#devices</a> ;/<br>
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        There is a French developers iode, but their security app is
        still closed source.<br>
        NO wonder!<br>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://iode.tech/en/iodeos-installation/">https://iode.tech/en/iodeos-installation/</a><br>
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        MJ<br>
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          <div> On Saturday, 16 April 2022, 13:18:06 BST, Martin A.
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            <div dir="ltr">On 2022-04-16 12:55, Alain D D Williams via
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              > Does anyone have any experience with this ? What
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              > What avoid ?<br clear="none">
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              AFAIK you have precisely one vendor option that will fit
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