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Hi Gary,<BR>
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On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 22:28 +0000, Gary Watts wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hi</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I think I've made some progress.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Telnet 192.168.3.2 25 works</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">None of the others do though and for some reason I can't reference the PC as localhost or 127.0.0.1, so I suspect DNS has gone awry somewhere.</FONT>
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Check the configuration file for the SMTP server and ensure in doesn't bind to a particular IP address. A good way to check is to do:<BR>
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# netstat -lp |grep -i smtp<BR>
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This is the output of my mail server:<BR>
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tcp6 0 0 *:smtp *:* LISTEN 1693/exim<BR>
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Notice the *:smtp means it'll respond on the SMTP port on any IP address.<BR>
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Next, check your /etc/hosts file contains the line:<BR>
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127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain<BR>
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Note using IP addresses doesn't use DNS.<BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">I have managed to send mail out and it has arrived at it's destination, so SMTP seems to be working well enough for now.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">POP on port 110 is still the main problem though.</FONT>
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What package are you using to provide the POP3 daemon? Is it running? Firewall appropriately set to let through packets to port 110?<BR>
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If your using postfix try (for a Fedora based system):<BR>
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Enable the daemon to start at system startup<BR>
# chkconfig postfix on<BR>
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Start the postfix daemon right now<BR>
# service postfix start<BR>
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or for a Debian based system:<BR>
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# /etc/init.d/postfix start<BR>
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and check it's running using:<BR>
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# ps aux | grep -i postfix | grep -v grep<BR>
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There's a few ideas, let us know how it goes.<BR>
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Thanks<BR>
Mark<BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Gary</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: Andrew Hodgson [mailto:<A HREF="mailto:andrew@hodgsonfamily.org">andrew@hodgsonfamily.org</A>]</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Sent: 21 November 2004 19:12</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: RE: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hi,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">DNS - not at this stage. Can you do the following:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>From the Linux machine:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">1. telnet 127.0.0.1 25 (you should get the SMTP banner up)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">2. telnet 127.0.0.1 110 (pop banner)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">3. telnet 127.0.0.1 143 (IMAP banner)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">4. Telnet as above, using the 192.168.x.x IP).</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Then try the same using a Windows machine, using 192.168.x.x IP.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">My guess is the Daemons aren't autostarting.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Andrew.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: <A HREF="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">[mailto:<A HREF="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A>] On Behalf Of Gary</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Watts</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Sent: 21 November 2004 19:10</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: RE: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hi</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">How can I make the Daemons listen on that IP? I presume I'm running POP</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">daemons - how can I tell? Nothing I've tried on either the local PC or</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">another one on the LAN works. I guess there's something really</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">fundamental that I'm not aware of. Does DNS have anything to do with</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">it?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Gary</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: Andrew Hodgson [mailto:<A HREF="mailto:andrew@hodgsonfamily.org">andrew@hodgsonfamily.org</A>]</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Sent: 21 November 2004 18:41</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: RE: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hi,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Simply the Daemons are not listening on that ip (you should use the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx address, don't add anything to it), from the local</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">machine you can use 127.0.0.1, localhost or sometimes</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">localhost.localdomain. Fetchmail by default usually shoves stuff</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">through the MTA, so either it is using the internal mail command or it</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">is getting access ok. Also are you running POP or IMAP daemons.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Andrew.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: <A HREF="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">[mailto:<A HREF="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A>] On Behalf Of Gary</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Watts</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Sent: 21 November 2004 18:03</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: RE: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hi Andrew</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I followed your advice re: Fetchmail and it is retrieving mail nicely</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">from 4 different domains and putting them into the relevant user</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">mailboxes on my Fedora server.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Haven't managed to get Postfix working yet, or Sendmail.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">The big problem now is this. I cannot retrieve any of the mail sat on</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">the Fedora machine from my mail client (Outlook). The Fedora server on</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">the Samba domain "CMC" is called "CMCTS" and is on IP address</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">192.168.3.2. How do I refer to it from my mail client in the server</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">settings?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I have tried the following in both the POP3 and SMTP fields:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">192.168.3.2</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">cmcts</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">192.168.3.2.cmc</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">cmcts.cmc</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">192.168.3.2.cmc.local</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">cmcts.cmc.local</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I have also tried these in Ximian Evolution, which is actually running</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">on the same machine as Fetchmail. Postfix and Sendmail plus:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">127.0.0.1</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">localhost</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">127.0.0.1.cmc</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">localhost.cmc</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">127.0.0.1.cmc.local</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">localhost.cmc.local</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">The mail servers simply cannot be seen!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Any help greatly appreciated.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Gary</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: Andrew Hodgson [mailto:<A HREF="mailto:andrew@hodgsonfamily.org">andrew@hodgsonfamily.org</A>]</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Sent: 20 November 2004 17:57</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: Gary Watts (external); Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: RE: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hi,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">You need Fetchmail to fetch messages from pop server. Use</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Postfix/Qmail, not Sendmail because if SM gets screwed you end up with a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">mess plus security holes in your install.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Andrew. </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: <A HREF="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">[mailto:<A HREF="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A>] On Behalf Of Gary</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Watts</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Sent: 20 November 2004 11:49</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: 'Herefordshire Linux Users Group.'</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hi</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I want to setup a simple mail server at home for 4 users.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I have Dovecot and Sendmail install on Fedora 2.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Anybody got any experience with these? My first problem is how to</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">configure dovecot t retrieve e-mails from my ISP and delivery them into</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">the apppropriate users mailboxes.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Gary</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: <A HREF="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">[mailto:<A HREF="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A>]On Behalf Of Julian</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Robbins</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Sent: 13 November 2004 14:01</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: [Herefordshire] UbuntuLinux FREE CD's avaliable</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hi</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">If you have not come across it before, Ubuntu is a new Linux</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">distribution that is very, very promising. I already run it as my main</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Linux of choice at home ! (displacing my Mandrake 10.1 which never</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">seemed to work quite right).</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Why should you consider Ubuntu ?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">1) It's based on Debian, which most Linux users would suggest is the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">most stable, usable system.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">2) It uses apt-get in all its glory, an extremely easy to use</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Packagement Management & Update system, to grab more than 10000 packages</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">down from cmd line or from a simple but powerful GUI. Bit like urpmi or</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">yum, but much better. You can even upgrade the all of your distro from</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">here !!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">3) Where Debian always got me and most others was its old-fashioned</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">installation routine. Although, Debian's installer has improved a lot of</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">late, Ubuntu still has an easier more straightforward text based system.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">4) The default package choice is excellent, with firefox the main</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">browser (ver 1.0PR), evolution and thunderbird as possible mail clients.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">5) It's based on the brand new Gnome 2.8. I used to always go for KDE,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">since vers 1.0 of KDE, but to be honest after trying out Ubuntu I really</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">like Gnome as I can get the job done so much better and faster. The</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">fonts are so well presented, in fact the presentation generally through</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">the distro, is very polished, more so than any I've seen.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">6) It's fast - my 1.1 GHz Athlon feels like XP @ at around 2.5 GHz !!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Everything runs very snappily.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">7) It's free, and will remain free. You can even get paid support if you</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">wish.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I get the feeling that Ubuntu will become one of the major players in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">linux, especially on the desktop. The beauty is that as its Debian</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">based, it is also such a good choice as a server platform too.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">If anyone's interested, I have ordered 10 cd's from them (they're</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">available FREE but only till TODAY !!!). Even the postage is FREE !!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.ubuntulinux.org">www.ubuntulinux.org</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Don't know when I will get them but will bring them along to a future</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">LUG meeting.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hopefully will download the CD based version (knoppix like) so that we</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">can see it up and running on Thursday at HCT.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hope we'll have a good turn out Thursday, as Box as excelled himself</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">with getting such a good venue.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">We have a couple of new members recently signed up that I hope will be</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">able to attend Thursday. For any new members, please feel free to</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">introduce yourself via the list, with a little about what you want out</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">of Linux/Open source Software, and what you hope to get out of the LUG.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">We were all new to Linux at some time, and the Herefordshire LUG tries</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">to be helpful to EVERYONE whatever their experience, skill level and</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">background.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">See you all Thursday,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Cheers</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Julian</FONT>
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