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<DIV><SPAN class=828535008-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
Mark</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=828535008-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
couldn't get the netstat -lp | grep -i smtp command to work, but everything else
seems to be in place. I'm now getting the message "could not lock
/var/mail/spool/gary".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=828535008-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I've
had to abandon this project now as the deadline has passed - regrettably I've
had to install a Windows-based solution that took less then 5 minutes to install
and configure, but I expect it to go wrong before long.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=828535008-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Worth
a try though and if anyone else has any ideas I'll try them when I've got a bit
more time.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=828535008-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
again</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=828535008-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Gary</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Mark
Broadbent<BR><B>Sent:</B> 22 November 2004 19:45<BR><B>To:</B> Herefordshire
Linux Users Group.<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Herefordshire] Mail
Server<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Hi Gary,<BR><BR>On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 22:28 +0000,
Gary Watts wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><PRE><FONT color=#000000>Hi</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>I think I've made some progress.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Telnet 192.168.3.2 25 works</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>None of the others do though and for some reason I can't reference the PC as localhost or 127.0.0.1, so I suspect DNS has gone awry somewhere.</FONT>
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>
</PRE>Check the configuration file for the SMTP server and ensure in doesn't
bind to a particular IP address. A good way to check is to do:<BR><BR>#
netstat -lp |grep -i smtp<BR><BR>This is the output of my mail
server:<BR><BR>tcp6
0 0
*:smtp
*:*
LISTEN 1693/exim<BR><BR>Notice the *:smtp means it'll
respond on the SMTP port on any IP address.<BR><BR>Next, check your /etc/hosts
file contains the line:<BR><BR>127.0.0.1
localhost localhost.localdomain<BR><BR>Note using IP
addresses doesn't use DNS.<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><PRE><FONT color=#000000>I have managed to send mail out and it has arrived at it's destination, so SMTP seems to be working well enough for now.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>POP on port 110 is still the main problem though.</FONT>
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>
</PRE>What package are you using to provide the POP3 daemon? Is it running?
Firewall appropriately set to let through packets to port 110?<BR><BR>If your
using postfix try (for a Fedora based system):<BR><BR>Enable the daemon to
start at system startup<BR># chkconfig postfix on<BR><BR>Start the postfix
daemon right now<BR># service postfix start<BR><BR>or for a Debian based
system:<BR><BR># /etc/init.d/postfix start<BR><BR>and check it's running
using:<BR><BR># ps aux | grep -i postfix | grep -v grep<BR><BR>There's a few
ideas, let us know how it goes.<BR><BR>Thanks<BR>Mark<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><PRE><FONT color=#000000>Gary</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>From: Andrew Hodgson [mailto:<A href="mailto:andrew@hodgsonfamily.org">andrew@hodgsonfamily.org</A>]</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Sent: 21 November 2004 19:12</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>To: Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Subject: RE: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Hi,</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>DNS - not at this stage. Can you do the following:</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>>From the Linux machine:</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>1. telnet 127.0.0.1 25 (you should get the SMTP banner up)</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>2. telnet 127.0.0.1 110 (pop banner)</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>3. telnet 127.0.0.1 143 (IMAP banner)</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>4. Telnet as above, using the 192.168.x.x IP).</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Then try the same using a Windows machine, using 192.168.x.x IP.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>My guess is the Daemons aren't autostarting.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Andrew.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>From: <A href="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>[mailto:<A href="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A>] On Behalf Of Gary</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Watts</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Sent: 21 November 2004 19:10</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>To: Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Subject: RE: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Hi</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>How can I make the Daemons listen on that IP? I presume I'm running POP</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>daemons - how can I tell? Nothing I've tried on either the local PC or</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>another one on the LAN works. I guess there's something really</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>fundamental that I'm not aware of. Does DNS have anything to do with</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>it?</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Gary</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>From: Andrew Hodgson [mailto:<A href="mailto:andrew@hodgsonfamily.org">andrew@hodgsonfamily.org</A>]</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Sent: 21 November 2004 18:41</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>To: Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Subject: RE: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Hi,</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Simply the Daemons are not listening on that ip (you should use the</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx address, don't add anything to it), from the local</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>machine you can use 127.0.0.1, localhost or sometimes</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>localhost.localdomain. Fetchmail by default usually shoves stuff</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>through the MTA, so either it is using the internal mail command or it</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>is getting access ok. Also are you running POP or IMAP daemons.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Andrew.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>From: <A href="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>[mailto:<A href="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A>] On Behalf Of Gary</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Watts</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Sent: 21 November 2004 18:03</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>To: Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Subject: RE: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Hi Andrew</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>I followed your advice re: Fetchmail and it is retrieving mail nicely</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>from 4 different domains and putting them into the relevant user</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>mailboxes on my Fedora server.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Haven't managed to get Postfix working yet, or Sendmail.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>The big problem now is this. I cannot retrieve any of the mail sat on</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>the Fedora machine from my mail client (Outlook). The Fedora server on</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>the Samba domain "CMC" is called "CMCTS" and is on IP address</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>192.168.3.2. How do I refer to it from my mail client in the server</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>settings?</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>I have tried the following in both the POP3 and SMTP fields:</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>192.168.3.2</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>cmcts</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>192.168.3.2.cmc</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>cmcts.cmc</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>192.168.3.2.cmc.local</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>cmcts.cmc.local</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>I have also tried these in Ximian Evolution, which is actually running</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>on the same machine as Fetchmail. Postfix and Sendmail plus:</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>127.0.0.1</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>localhost</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>127.0.0.1.cmc</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>localhost.cmc</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>127.0.0.1.cmc.local</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>localhost.cmc.local</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>The mail servers simply cannot be seen!</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Any help greatly appreciated.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Gary</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>From: Andrew Hodgson [mailto:<A href="mailto:andrew@hodgsonfamily.org">andrew@hodgsonfamily.org</A>]</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Sent: 20 November 2004 17:57</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>To: Gary Watts (external); Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Subject: RE: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Hi,</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>You need Fetchmail to fetch messages from pop server. Use</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Postfix/Qmail, not Sendmail because if SM gets screwed you end up with a</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>mess plus security holes in your install.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Andrew. </FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>From: <A href="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>[mailto:<A href="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A>] On Behalf Of Gary</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Watts</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Sent: 20 November 2004 11:49</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>To: 'Herefordshire Linux Users Group.'</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Subject: [Herefordshire] Mail Server</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Hi</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>I want to setup a simple mail server at home for 4 users.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>I have Dovecot and Sendmail install on Fedora 2.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Anybody got any experience with these? My first problem is how to</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>configure dovecot t retrieve e-mails from my ISP and delivery them into</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>the apppropriate users mailboxes.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Gary</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>From: <A href="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>[mailto:<A href="mailto:herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">herefordshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</A>]On Behalf Of Julian</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Robbins</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Sent: 13 November 2004 14:01</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>To: Herefordshire Linux Users Group.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Subject: [Herefordshire] UbuntuLinux FREE CD's avaliable</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Hi</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>If you have not come across it before, Ubuntu is a new Linux</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>distribution that is very, very promising. I already run it as my main</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Linux of choice at home ! (displacing my Mandrake 10.1 which never</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>seemed to work quite right).</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Why should you consider Ubuntu ?</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>1) It's based on Debian, which most Linux users would suggest is the</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>most stable, usable system.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>2) It uses apt-get in all its glory, an extremely easy to use</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Packagement Management & Update system, to grab more than 10000 packages</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>down from cmd line or from a simple but powerful GUI. Bit like urpmi or</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>yum, but much better. You can even upgrade the all of your distro from</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>here !!</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>3) Where Debian always got me and most others was its old-fashioned</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>installation routine. Although, Debian's installer has improved a lot of</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>late, Ubuntu still has an easier more straightforward text based system.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>4) The default package choice is excellent, with firefox the main</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>browser (ver 1.0PR), evolution and thunderbird as possible mail clients.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>5) It's based on the brand new Gnome 2.8. I used to always go for KDE,</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>since vers 1.0 of KDE, but to be honest after trying out Ubuntu I really</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>like Gnome as I can get the job done so much better and faster. The</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>fonts are so well presented, in fact the presentation generally through</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>the distro, is very polished, more so than any I've seen.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>6) It's fast - my 1.1 GHz Athlon feels like XP @ at around 2.5 GHz !!</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Everything runs very snappily.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>7) It's free, and will remain free. You can even get paid support if you</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>wish.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>I get the feeling that Ubuntu will become one of the major players in</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>linux, especially on the desktop. The beauty is that as its Debian</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>based, it is also such a good choice as a server platform too.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>If anyone's interested, I have ordered 10 cd's from them (they're</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>available FREE but only till TODAY !!!). Even the postage is FREE !!</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000><A href="http://www.ubuntulinux.org">www.ubuntulinux.org</A></FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Don't know when I will get them but will bring them along to a future</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>LUG meeting.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Hopefully will download the CD based version (knoppix like) so that we</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>can see it up and running on Thursday at HCT.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Hope we'll have a good turn out Thursday, as Box as excelled himself</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>with getting such a good venue.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>We have a couple of new members recently signed up that I hope will be</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>able to attend Thursday. For any new members, please feel free to</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>introduce yourself via the list, with a little about what you want out</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>of Linux/Open source Software, and what you hope to get out of the LUG.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>We were all new to Linux at some time, and the Herefordshire LUG tries</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>to be helpful to EVERYONE whatever their experience, skill level and</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>background.</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>See you all Thursday,</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Cheers</FONT>
<FONT color=#000000>Julian</FONT>
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