[Hudlug] [Wylug-discuss] Laptop Suggestions

[Roger Greenwood]

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Subject: Re: [Wylug-discuss] Laptop Suggestions
Date: Monday 11 August 2008 23:19
From: Roger Greenwood <rg at nthong.co.uk>
To: wylug-discuss at wylug.org.uk

On Thursday 24 July 2008 18:21, Seb James wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 18:06 +0100, Roger Greenwood wrote:
> > I am still looking for a cheap laptop, (having had no success on ebay
> > yet). To that end I had the following discussion with PC World. Sorry for
> > the reverse nature of the following correspondence. Should I persue this
> > or just give in and go with a Dell - don't they deserve some support ?
>
> I think it's _really_ important to support vendors like Dell, and
> others, who will sell a machine with a pre-installed Linux OS. Even if
> that means buying a laptop that wouldn't otherwise be number 1 on your
> list.

Well I bought a dell. Overall very impressed so far. Saved about £55 over the
equivalent vista offering.

I have posted a few comments here :-

www.nthong.co.uk/wordpress

and started an e-petition here :-

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/softwarebundle/

Got 3 signatures after only a few hours !!

Any other support/publicity appreciated.

If you don't agree with me, start your own!

> If you don't like Dell, then buy from a smaller vendor, but _do_ buy a
> computer with Linux pre-installed, even if you plan to replace whatever
> it comes with with your own preferred Distro.
>
> Not only will this help to nurture a Linux friendly PC supplier
> ecosystem, you will benefit from the knowledge that your hardware is all
> Linux compatible, so it's good all round.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Seb James
>
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: PC World <customer.services at pcworld.co.uk>
> > Date: 24 Jul 2008 14:30
> > Subject: PCW308884CR, RE: Re: PCW307341CR, RE: New Laptop - EI 1201
> > To: rogerggbr at googlemail.com
> >
> > customer.services at pcworld.co.uk
> > Dear Mr Greenwood,
> >
> > Thank you for your email dated 21st July 2008.
> >
> > We would consider a refund of the whole unit if you did not agree with
> > the license agreement, but there is no responsibility on the retailer to
> > refund the cost of the operating system.  The point of contact for this
> > would be the original equipment manufacturer.
> >
> > I trust the above serves to answer your query and thank you for taking
> > the time to contact us.
> >
> > Yours sincerely,
> >
> > Joe Jones
> > PC World Customer Services
> >
> >
> > -----------------Original Message-----------------
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.
> >
> > What would be your position if I bought one, then refused the software
> > licensing agreement?
> >
> > Would I then be able to claim a refund on the software as per the
> > standard microsoft license terms ?
> >
> > I understand this is to be recovered direct from the retailer
> > (yourselves, not from microsoft because of the bundling) according to the
> > terms. Obviously I haven't read the actual terms that go with this
> > machine yet, I am assuming they are similar to others I have seen in the
> > past. Perhaps you could send me a copy or point me to the correct link
> > prior to purchase?
> >
> > Your comments appreciated.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Roger Greenwood.
> >
> > 2008/7/21 PC World <customer.services at pcworld.co.uk>:
> > >      customer.services at pcworld.co.uk
> > > Dear Roger Greenwood,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your email dated 17th July 2008.
> > >
> > > The Ei System 1201 only comes pre-installed with Windows Vista as a
> > > manufacturing standard, therefore we would be unable to remove this
> > > software.  Thank you for taking the time to contact us.
> > >
> > > Yours sincerely,
> > >
> > > Trevor Radford
> > > PC World Customer Services
> > >
> > >
> > > -----------------Original Message-----------------
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I called into my local store recently (Huddersfield) and was impressed
> >
> > with
> >
> > > the EI Systems 1201. I would like to buy one without Microsoft Windows
> > > installed, but the people in the store were a bit vague as to whether
> > > this was possible. Could you clarify this please - can I get one with
> > > the software removed already, or do I have to buy one, then return the
> > > disks/stickers for a refund at the store? (Assuming I am not going to
> > > use the software and refuse the license agreement). Could you also
> > > please advise
> > > the amount of discount/refund I could expect?
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > >
> > > Roger Greenwood.
> >
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