[Klug-general] SSL bug

[Karl Buckland]

Perhaps this is something that can be brought up on the agenda for
discussion at the Ashford meeting?

I personally don't mind that these arguments go on in some way, because I
invariably learn something, even if I don't agree with the methods employed
by the participants in the argument. But I do agree that they reflect badly
on the group and new members are going to be extremely put off coming to the
meetings and participating in discussion.

Just to reiterate what has already been mentioned: The meetings are far more
civil than the list discussion. I've never heard anyone so much as raise
their voice or look at someone funny, let alone launch into personal
attacks. In fact the meetings seem to take on the opposite flavour, with
members being friendly, helpful and extremely polite throughout.

I think we should also remember that the contents of list emails are
especially sensitive as those emails are delivered to subscriber's inboxes.
Despite registering for the list I still think that colourful content in
those messages is going to be seen more as an intrusion than the same
content posted on the web, simply because if it's out on the web then you
have to go searching for it. Hopefully I've explained myself well there...
it's 1am and I'm tired ;-)

Karl

2008/5/24 nic dan <dungeons88 at hotmail.com>:

>  Hi wayne, everyone
>
> "I would like to suggest we see how many people also feel this
>  way and if so introduce a code of conduct, if on the other hand it's
>  felt generally OK to carry on this way then so be it; I have at least
>  made my feelings felt."
>
> As a noobie to KLUG, I have a mailbox full of this, at the
> moment.................
> Whilst it makes for a compelling saga, in the absence of TV's soaps, I
> hardly find myself likely to be made to feel welcome
> I'm 60yrs old, not a prude, but really, I stopped the "who can piss
> farthest up the toilet wall" game, when I was about 13 or so
> I was interested in meeting people who use linux, to learn from their
> experience, however it seems many of you could do with being a student of
> life, as you read like excerpts from "How to win friends & influence people
> - NOT"
> Perhaps some of your UG members are that young & they know no better, or,
> that immature that they just like to see their name 'writ large' in the
> ennals of time, due to some insecurity of personality, rather than the
> software/hardware interface?
> email is after all, a publication, yes?
> Nothing better to say to each other, guys?
> Maybe I joined the wrong club?
> .........but then, you are the ONLY linux users group in Kent, so what's a
> chap supposed to do?
>
> Have you seen this?
>
> http://sevitz.com/2004/04/philosophy_for_beginners
>
> Some of you could maybe do a blog instead, to continue in this vein, and
> leave the forum of emails for a more measured approach, for the benefit of
> 'watchers' and the time honoured tradition, common courtesy
> A measure of humour wouldn't go amiss either, it's very dour
>
> Thank you, kindly
>
> Aitch
> --------------------------------------------------
> > Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:23:05 +0100
> > From: browns.postbox at gmail.com
> > To: kent at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > Subject: Re: [Klug-general] SSL bug
>
> >
> > On Thu, 22 May 2008 09:58:13 +0100
> > "Colin McCarthy" <binarysignal at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Karl, while it is good to highlight security issues and possible rub
> > > it in people's faces a little, can we all try and do it with the
> > > typing of rude words.
> > > This is a friendly family list remember :-)
> > > We don't have a fixed code of conduct, but it's nice if we can be
> > > relatively pleasent to one another.
> > > Thanks
> > > Colin
> >
> > Reading on the rest of this thread makes me concerned. Speaking only
> > for myself I find the tone and language used by a minority appalling;
> > the people I talk to and the sites I visit do not regularly use such
> > language and personal attacks. This can do no good at all for the image
> > of KLUG.
> > Many years ago I was told the best way to use email is 'imagine the
> > person you are emailing is standing in front of you and you are talking
> > to them', I find this has served me well.
> >
> > I would like to suggest we see how many people also feel this
> > way and if so introduce a code of conduct, if on the other hand it's
> > felt generally OK to carry on this way then so be it; I have at least
> > made my feelings felt.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Wayne.
> >
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