LOL, yeah it's pretty rubbish but then dapper does has 5 year support so unless you want to be bleeding edge (which is probably everybody on this list) you shouldn't need to reinstall it for ages.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 10/07/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Allen Brooker</b> <<a href="mailto:allen@allenjb.me.uk">allen@allenjb.me.uk</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I thought we were trying to get away from the Windows way of doing things!<br><br>Dan Attwood wrote:<br>> There have been quite a few reports on the ubuntu forums about problems<br>> with upgrading, all kinds of little things seem to go wrong. I think
<br>> their official line now is that you should do a fresh install rather<br>> then an upgrade - bit of pain on a 6 monthly distro but there you go.<br>><br>> I'd try other peoples suggestions first though<br>
><br>> Dan<br>><br>> On 10/07/06, *Kevin Groves* <<a href="mailto:kevin.groves@kentpharm.co.uk">kevin.groves@kentpharm.co.uk</a><br>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kevin.groves@kentpharm.co.uk">kevin.groves@kentpharm.co.uk
</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>> Peter Childs wrote:<br>> > Ever since I upgraded my home PC from Ubuntu 5.10 to Ubuntu 6.06 using<br>> > the upgrade system, (Rather than a reinstall) DBus causes my machine
<br>> > to freeze. ending up with the need to hit the reboot button.<br>> ><br>> Are you *really* sure it's DBUS? I had a strange random lockup and it<br>> came down to the longhaul module in the powersave system. Some bug in it
<br>> for the BIOS in the machine. Double check dmesg and /var/log/messages to<br>> make sure theres no strange error messages during the boot process<br>> especially during module loading.<br>><br>
> Kev,<br>><br>> > Currently I've got DBus system switched off and the only thing that<br>> > does not work is the shutdown option in Gnome. I think is the HAL that<br>> > actually causes the freeze. It does not really cause the computer to
<br>> > panic as such but stop being able to communicate with all the<br>> > hardware, Keyboard, Mouse Network, Screen, Harddisk, etc I think Linux<br>> > is still running, but you can't do much withit once you can't contact
<br>> > the hardware.<br>> ><br>> > DBus from what I've managed to find out sounds far to complicated and<br>> > under documentated to do its job properly. Its probably that modern<br>
> > graphical OS are complicated full stop.<br>> ><br>> > Any ideas would be helpful.<br>> ><br>> > I did have had other version of Linux on the machine freeze in the<br>> > same way with DBus too including SUSE if I remember correctly......
<br>> > But I just re-installed that some time ago.<br>> ><br>> > Any help would be most wellcome. Some how I would prefer to be able to<br>> > reboot my machine using somthing other that Ctrl-Alt-Delete.
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