I think the reference is the Bible. Something about 'in the beginning there was heaven and earth'.<br>I would like an oatmeal and rasin cookie please :-)<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 3/8/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
J D Freeman</b> <<a href="mailto:klug@quixotic.org.uk">klug@quixotic.org.uk</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0; margin-right: 0; margin-bottom: 0; margin-left: 0; margin-left: 0.80ex; border-left-color: #cccccc; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex">
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 12:17:46PM +0000, Dan Attwood wrote:<br>> Ok shall we set the April talks to be one on IPTV by Colin for the<br>> none technical and one on SHH by Mike for the technical?
<br>><br>> And while wer'e at it can somebody please explain to me why people<br>> keep ing offering talks along the line of 'why XYZ is a load of<br>> rubbish' or 'techniques and methods for killing end users' or 'why I
<br>> hate XYZ'?<br>><br>> Surely the aim of any lug should be to help it's members learn new<br>> things - remember the round table discussions we had in Dover? and<br>> also remember the cross section of member we have.
<br>><br>> If people really want to dicuss things why i hate such and such<br>> perhaps they should save it for the pub meets or maybe we should<br>> arrange for some proper, structured debates. I person anally don't
<br>> want to have to sit and listen to someone troll for half an hour - i<br>> have better ways to spend my time.<br><br>Having heard Mike's talks on this subject in the past, I don't think<br>there is any real negativity there, and such a talk can only be useful,
<br>IMHO. Whats more, with the recent(ish) posts on getting jobs and<br>certification in IT, a talk from someone who has been doing this stuff<br>professionally since the last century would only be useful to the<br>membership.
<br><br>The other talk you are alluding to, I am guessing, is my "Why computer<br>scientists should be shot", which is not a troll, and not a rant, but a<br>talk designed to promote wider awareness about where we have come from
<br>as an industry, and where we are going. Any programmer worth their salt<br>should have studied "Software Failure and risk" and thus should be able<br>to learn from mistakes. A talk like this is important in that respect.
<br><br>This said, I will be changing the title of my talk in march to "In the<br>Beginning was the command line." (cookie for the first person to spot<br>the reference :p )<br><br>J<br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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