<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I would love to have made it but unfortunately I had an exam (Certificate in Cloud Computing Security Knowledge, I could have chatted about how to perform a Denial of Service attack in DOS using DIR (how you can DoS in DOS using DIR). <div><br></div><div>Trust me, no matter how complicated you make a security system it can always get worse. In fact the de facto information security standard ISO 27001 mandates that you make it worse every year, they call it 'continual improvement' - users call it 'arrrrrgghhh'.</div><div><br></div><div>Our offices are in King's Cross, which is not one of the most upmarket parts of London. We have both swipe cards and keypad entry systems mandated by CESG, the government's information security agency, on both all external <i>entrances</i> and those between internal 'trust boundaries'. Basically it is a duck's bottom - we have more cameras than Thames Television (Julia has been there). </div><div><br></div><div>The first three times we did our fire drills and all of the fire exits swung open and stayed that way, providing convenient access from street level on three different roads into our offices. The problem with mandating controls is that they simply can't account for all forms of human stupidity and neither can a CSO.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>James<br><div><div><br></div><div><div><div><br><div><div>On 26 Sep 2010, at 06:11, Thomas Edward Groves wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On man dir in dos:<br>because it is a half-baked mess perpetrated by a socially dysfunctional<br>conspiracy :)<br><br>Tom<br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: Peter Childs <<a href="mailto:pchilds@bcs.org">pchilds@bcs.org</a>><br>To: Kent Linux User Group - General Topics <<a href="mailto:kent@mailman.lug.org.uk">kent@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:50 PM<br>Subject: [Klug-general] Today's Meet<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">Even if there were only 7 of us at the KLUG meeting today, it was a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">good meeting, No talks but do we really need any when we can always<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">talk and talk about any thing and any thing to do with computers.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subjects included.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">* Subversion vs Git what the best tool for version control.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">* why can't I type man dir in dos?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">* What are we going to do to keep our website up to date.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">* and how complicated can you make a security system in a college<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(swip cards on everything) and then just have everything swing open<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">when the fire alarm goes off (including the server room and all the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">fire containment doors?) and still not know if everyone is actually<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">out the building?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Oh and while I'm here where do I find some beginners instructions to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">building a deb file (to install freepbx in ubuntu)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Peter.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Kent mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:Kent@mailman.lug.org.uk">Kent@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/kent">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/kent</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kent mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Kent@mailman.lug.org.uk">Kent@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/kent<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>