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    Off-list, just a bunch of us talking on IRC and it took off.<br>
    <br>
    To also alleviate the potential inference that could be drawn at the
    short-notice change, this isn't in a direct response to that.
    Certainly it was an item that spurred on conversation, but the
    attempt here is a broader consideration.<br>
    <br>
    ~Luc <br>
    <br>
    On 26/02/11 19:37, Colin McCarthy wrote:
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      cite="mid:AANLkTik6vO0mNJ1ot2UF7fG3KoAg8KjmcDmWHiZiE3QD@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">All valid points and ones that have been discussed
      before. One thing the collective KLUG community is good at doing
      it discussing what to do but then never following through with it.
      <div>It would &nbsp;be good for that to change.</div>
      <div><br>
        <div>Out of interest was this idea created off list or at todays
          meeting?</div>
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        <div>Colin<br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On 26 February 2011 17:37, Luc Tidy <span
              dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:luc.tidy@gmail.com">luc.tidy@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
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                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;
                        font-size: 18px;"><b>Improving KLUG Meetings</b></span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;"><i>26th
                          February 2011</i></span></div>
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                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">KLUG
                        meetings are constantly evolving, and this
                        process should be encouraged and up for
                        discussion. In a rather ad-hoc meeting we
                        decided to approach a few issues - primarly<span>&nbsp;</span></span><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;"><b>Meeting
                          Content</b></span><span style="padding-top:
                        0px; padding-bottom: 1px;"><span>&nbsp;</span>&amp;<span>&nbsp;</span></span><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;"><b>Organisation</b></span><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">.&nbsp;</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">We
                        would appreciate your feedback and hope to plan
                        meetings on a quarterly basis to discuss
                        progress.</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;"><b>Meeting
                          Content</b></span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">-
                        Formal talks from members or guest speakers</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">-
                        "Show and Tell" section for people to present
                        things they are working on, new software people
                        might not have seen, web services etc. This
                        could be mandatory and as a way of introduction
                        to the group.</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">-
                        Q&amp;A / Problem Solving Sessions / Development
                        Discussions. This could encourage break-out
                        groups post talks.&nbsp;</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">-
                        Discussions / debates</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">-
                        KLUG Projects/Workshops?</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                        - Certain caveats/code of conduct require
                        consideration?</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">-
                        Lightning talks (though this may cross over with
                        show and tell)</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">-
                        Themed events, e.g. Security, Web apps, Kernel
                        internals, Interoperability</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">-
                        Drinks and Snacks</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;"><b>Social
                          Meetings</b></span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">To
                        augment the "formal" quarterly meetings, around
                        Kent, for social events like pub/curry etc. Held
                        on a Friday night, or similiar. Previous
                        attendance has dried up so requires opening up
                        for discussion.</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;"><b>Virtual
                          Meetings</b></span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">-
                        Virtual, supplementary meetings at scheduled
                        times</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                        - Includes people in hard to reach areas, or
                        with an inability to travel</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                        - Promotes use of IRC channel</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                        - Investigate possible voice/screen sharing
                        options</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                        - Mumble/TS, Skype, VNC, GoToMeeting, YuuGuu
                        etc.</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;"><b>Organisation</b></span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;"><i>-<span>&nbsp;</span></i></span><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">If
                        meetings are going to start later in the day, it
                        has been suggested to increase their length so
                        they take up the whole day, rather than being a
                        3 hour stint that makes full use of the day
                        impossible.</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                        1100 - 1700</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                        1200 - 1800</span></div>
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                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">-
                        We currently have locations all over the place.
                        Are there any central places that are
                        particularly easy to get to by everyone using
                        pubic transport?</span></div>
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                    </div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">-
                        A shared Google Calendar as a way of seeing when
                        the nexts meetings are.</span></div>
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                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">These
                        points are a brief start of potential changes
                        that KLUG could see in the future. The plan is
                        to, from this basic discussion, extend into a
                        formal, planned meeting at some point.</span></div>
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                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;"><b>tl;dr:</b>
                        What do you think of these? What would you like
                        to see from KLUG?</span></div>
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                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">~A
                        collaborative effort of:</span></div>
                    <div style="padding-right: 1px;"><span
                        style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 1px;">Luc,
                        Spode, Julia, Boudiccas</span></div>
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