<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 February 2012 20:53, David Halliday <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:david.halliday@gmail.com">david.halliday@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>Grub2 with all It&#39;s improvements is very powerful. I think everyone who has been using grub legacy finds learning grub2 frustrating especially as administering it feels far less casual than just tweaking a single text file.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote"></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Grub2 too feels like a advanced/revampted version of Lilo, not any improvement on Grub-legacy at all. Its fine once you get used to it, but its no where near as simple and slic as Grub-legacy is ie a single text file you just change and it happens!. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Peter. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 1, 2012 4:51 PM, &quot;Rich&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:klug-mail@richayres2.plus.com" target="_blank">klug-mail@richayres2.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution">
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    On 01/02/12 12:49, David Halliday wrote:
    <blockquote type="cite">If you want to run fsck on a drive that is mounted,
      you can unmount it first (as long as it isn&#39;t the root partition).<br>
      If you want to run it on the root then you will have to use a live
      distribution like Knoppix.<br>
      <br>
      If you have issues/worries about the drive then its worth setting
      it to check at boot time in the fstab (it won&#39;t hurt to do this
      just slow down booting on the occasions that the checks run).<br>
      <br>
      If you want to look at grub2 in a less heavy way, there is a GUI
      tool (I have read good things about it but not used it): <a href="https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer</a><br>
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      There is also some good documentation (prepare for a lot of
      reading) on the ubuntu wiki: <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2</a><br>
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        On 31 January 2012 22:24, Rich <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:klug-mail@richayres2.plus.com" target="_blank">klug-mail@richayres2.plus.com</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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            <div> On 31/01/12 17:45, David Halliday wrote: </div>
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              <div>Just some quick sanity checks (don&#39;t take
                them personally):<br>
                <ol>
                  <li>This message comes from when Linux is booting and
                    not the BIOS booting.</li>
                  <li>The BIOS set-up on the machine recognises the
                    disk.</li>
                  <li>If possible S.M.A.R.T. checking is enables and
                    hasn&#39;t fired any errors for the disk (possible with
                    old disks).</li>
                  <li>All physical connections have been given the usual
                    extra wiggle/push to tighten.<br>
                  </li>
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                <p>A couple of pointers/questions:<br>
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              <ol>
                <li>What distribution are you using?  ----- Ubuntu 10.04
                  server<br>
                </li>
              </ol>
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              <ol>
                <li>Have you configured the disks to be checked at boot
                  time? (See pass-num: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab</a>
                  ) ----------No<br>
                </li>
                <li>What is the file system being used? (EXT3/EXT4
                  etc...)     -------EXT4<br>
                </li>
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                  <li>At what point/which application/process/log gives
                    that error message?<br>
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            The exact error message is &quot; fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2<br>
             This is followed by /dev/sad1 clean xxxxxx files xxx blocks
            <br>
              samefor sda3<br>
                  These are the root and home partitions of first disc.<br>
             The next  line is &quot;The disc drive for /mnt is not ready yet
            or not present<br>
             Continue to wait or Press to skip mounting or M for manual
            recovery?<br>
             Is this something connected with grub2 ? How can I initiate
            the fsck for sdb1 which seems to need to be done before
            mounting or am I completely on the wrong track. I am not
            sure where I should put this (Don&#39;t Say it - I know what you
            are thinking), presumably somewhere in the sdb1 entry. <br>
               I have tried all your other suggestions for which much
            thanks <br>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On 31 January 2012 16:27, Rich
                  <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:klug-mail@richayres2.plus.com" target="_blank">klug-mail@richayres2.plus.com</a>&gt;</span>
                  wrote:<br>
                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi All<br>
                    I have been having trouble in mounting a newly
                    installed Hard drive. I have edited /etc/fstab and
                    the disc&#39;s (I know CLI etc require the Yankee
                    spelling -disk-but outside of that I spell in
                    English) UUID, mount point etc.<br>
                    When I boot up I get the Message &quot; Drive may be slow
                    to respond or not present&quot; and gives the option of
                    mounting manually.&quot;<br>
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                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">  mount /mnt /dev/hdb1 is
                    successful and I can access the contents of the
                    drive with ls /mnt so disc does exist and will mount
                    O.K.<br>
                    Is there anything else I should be doing? As you
                    know my machines are old but I have never had this
                    problem before even with this disc on another box.
                    Any suggestions please?<br>
                      Rich<br>
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       Thanks David for all your help. I am familiar with using fsck on
    discs, and feel sure that I can work out how to check before
    mounting. What is very annoying is that I was just getting familiar
    and comfortable with GRUB when GRUB2 comes along - Old Dogs and new
    tricks...........<br>
         Thanks again Rich.<br>
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